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Re: 3 recruiting classes

Postby Stallion » Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:46 pm

actually I hate to say it because Scout is the better service but I believe their top commentators predicted a bowl game
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Re: 3 recruiting classes

Postby PoconoPony » Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:55 pm

Stallion wrote:actually I hate to say it because Scout is the better service but I believe their top commentators predicted a bowl game


You might be right; however, they were very clear and bottom line after spring practices. I guess even they let hopes exceed the realities. You have been right on for years re the lack of talent and recruiting issues which finally became 4 class cumulative and totally exposed in the spring.
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Re: 3 recruiting classes

Postby Digetydog » Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:59 pm

PoconoPony wrote:
Stallion wrote:actually I hate to say it because Scout is the better service but I believe their top commentators predicted a bowl game


You might be right; however, they were very clear and bottom line after spring practices. I guess even they let hopes exceed the realities. You have been right on for years re the lack of talent and recruiting issues which finally became 4 class cumulative and totally exposed in the spring.


The problem with their predictions was they failed to anticipate the complete failure of our defense. The offense played about like they predicted.

If smu played a Texas 2A team that ran the option, who thinks we could keep them under 40?
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Re: 3 recruiting classes

Postby Rebel10 » Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:05 pm

PoconoPony wrote:
Subscribers to Scout got the bottom line during and after spring practice. Scout hit the nail on the head as to the vulnerabilities, glaring weaknesses, lack of depth, questionable talent, lack of speed...etc. of this team.

Agree,
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Re: 3 recruiting classes

Postby Grant Carter » Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:18 pm

Who cares who predicted what?
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Re: 3 recruiting classes

Postby Puckhead48E » Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:28 pm

Holy [deleted]. "I was the only one who was right because you are the devil with an ornery medulla-oblongada, Bobby Boucher!" General douch-baggery is running rampant today!

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Re: 3 recruiting classes

Postby Rebel10 » Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:34 pm

Rebel10 wrote:We need to be patient because as we saw today that it is going to take a while to get things turned around like it did at USF. We don't need to hear how well we are doing in Spring practice nor quick thought on the Memphis game. We need good D1A players. And that is going to take time.


Since we have some that are starting to blame the coaches I am bumping this thread to encourage everyone to be patient.
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Re: 3 recruiting classes

Postby Lebanese4Life » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:08 pm

Rebel10 wrote:
Rebel10 wrote:We need to be patient because as we saw today that it is going to take a while to get things turned around like it did at USF. We don't need to hear how well we are doing in Spring practice nor quick thought on the Memphis game. We need good D1A players. And that is going to take time.


Since we have some that are starting to blame the coaches I am bumping this thread to encourage everyone to be patient.


wow, you really nailed it. are you some kind of soothsayer?
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Re: 3 recruiting classes

Postby footballdad » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:16 pm

Rebel10 wrote:
Rebel10 wrote:We need to be patient because as we saw today that it is going to take a while to get things turned around like it did at USF. We don't need to hear how well we are doing in Spring practice nor quick thought on the Memphis game. We need good D1A players. And that is going to take time.


Since we have some that are starting to blame the coaches I am bumping this thread to encourage everyone to be patient.


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Re: 3 recruiting classes

Postby Digetydog » Sun Oct 09, 2016 1:33 pm

footballdad wrote:
Rebel10 wrote:
Rebel10 wrote:We need to be patient because as we saw today that it is going to take a while to get things turned around like it did at USF. We don't need to hear how well we are doing in Spring practice nor quick thought on the Memphis game. We need good D1A players. And that is going to take time.


Since we have some that are starting to blame the coaches I am bumping this thread to encourage everyone to be patient.


Tulsa, UCF, Tulane


Tulane had programming defining wins over Southern, ULL, and Umass. Let me know how they do against better competition.

UCF had 9 wins in 2014. I am not sure what happened in 2015, but the coach running out of gas had a lot to do with it. The might not win 9 games this year, but the will be very good very fast.

Tulsa: Who thinks they are far "ahead" of of the Mustangs?
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Re: 3 recruiting classes

Postby mtrout » Sun Oct 09, 2016 1:44 pm

Digetydog wrote:
footballdad wrote:
Rebel10 wrote:Tulane had programming defining wins over Southern, ULL, and Umass. Let me know how the do against better competition.

UCF had 9 wins in 2014. I am not sure what happened in 2015, but the coach running out of gas had a lot to do with it. The might not win 9 games this year, but the will be very good very fast.

Tulsa: Who thinks they are far "ahead" of of the Mustangs?


We haven't had a 9 win season since Reagan's first term. Just about every fbs program I can think of is far "ahead" of us.
We can't excuse every loss every time to every team in the top 100. We gotta freakin find a way to win one every now and again. I'm not asking to beat Houston, but is 1 top 50 win too much to ask?
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Re: 3 recruiting classes

Postby Stallion » Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:00 pm

yes its ridiculous to expect SMU to beat a Top 50 program right now. You don't follow much College Football obviously. Top 50 is a Texas Tech or a Mississippi St or a UT. We would be 24 point underdogs to all of them. Hell we were 17 point underdogs to Tulsa and took them to OT on the road
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Re: 3 recruiting classes

Postby Digetydog » Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:21 pm

Stallion wrote:yes its ridiculous to expect SMU to beat a Top 50 program right now. You don't follow much College Football obviously. Top 50 is a Texas Tech or a Mississippi St or a UT. We would be 24 point underdogs to all of them. Hell we were 17 point underdogs to Tulsa and took them to OT on the road


With the possible exception of Tulsa, we will be underdogs the rest of the way.

We have six games left: if we were willing to loan any of our opponents our best/healthy OL for the rest of the year, I would not be surprised to find out that nobody answered the phone.

There are 12 Teams in our conference. How many of our OL (healthy or injured) are in the Top Six st there position? Brown? Pursley? And possibly McCarty.

Btw - Saena has been a pleasant surprise this year. Frankly, I think he was our best RT of the season.
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Re: 3 recruiting classes

Postby Charleston Pony » Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:28 pm

Digetydog wrote:
Stallion wrote:yes its ridiculous to expect SMU to beat a Top 50 program right now. You don't follow much College Football obviously. Top 50 is a Texas Tech or a Mississippi St or a UT. We would be 24 point underdogs to all of them. Hell we were 17 point underdogs to Tulsa and took them to OT on the road


With the possible exception of Tulsa, we will be underdogs the rest of the way.

We have six games left: if we were willing to loan any of our opponents our best/healthy OL for the rest of the year, I would not be surprised to find out that nobody answered the phone.

There are 12 Teams in our conference. How many of our OL (healthy or injured) are in the Top Six st there position? Brown? Pursley? And possibly McCarty.

Btw - Saena has been a pleasant surprise this year. Frankly, I think he was our best RT of the season.



I assume you meant Tulane but I doubt we will be favored on the road. I expect SMU to be underdogs the rest of this season and by some pretty large margins, starting with Houston.
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Re: 3 recruiting classes

Postby Stallion » Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:33 pm

Right DigetyDog

No reasonable, football knowledgeable person would fire a Coach rebuilding a bottomed out program based upon a Sophomore dominated roster. SMU will have about 38 true and/or medical/redshirt sophomores next year who are the nucleus of the rebuilding program. I'm hoping to get to 6 wins and a bowl in 2017 but if we don't like under Ron Meyer you keep rebuilding until that nucleus has had time to develop.

Very exasperating reading these threads

For about 20 years I've repeated the traditional Rebuild Rule: "Recruit Well and Count to 3 or 4" to be competitive. Under that traditional rule we should EXPECT to be competitive 2017 OR 2018. Remember Morris only had 3 weeks of actual recruiting days to recruit in 2015 so while we were happy with the class put together at the last minute I'm not so sure its even fair to start the 3-4 year clock after the 2015 Class

The program is progressing fine but hindered by the injuries to key players. Focus on the undeniable FACT that SMU's freshman and sophomores are clearly bigger, faster, stronger and more athletic because those are the kids that are going to be there when the Dancing begins
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