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Re: ACC commish: conference open to expansion

Postby Dukie » Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:49 am

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Re: ACC commish: conference open to expansion

Postby Charleston Pony » Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:18 am

While the ACC is currently 3rd on the revenue list, you have to give the Big XII credit for being aggressive in expansion and they may well eventually land the remaining 4 corner schools to strengthen that conference further. I've always liked the idea of performance based revenue distribution which is at least a start for the ACC, but even with that, the top programs in the ACC will not approach what SEC and Big 10 schools are raking in.
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Re: ACC commish: conference open to expansion

Postby Vitale » Fri Jul 28, 2023 2:25 pm

Several ACC schools make sense, as far as matchups: Miami, Syracuse, Boston College, Wake Forest, etc.
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Re: ACC commish: conference open to expansion

Postby orguy » Fri Jul 28, 2023 5:48 pm

Charleston Pony wrote:While the ACC is currently 3rd on the revenue list, you have to give the Big XII credit for being aggressive in expansion and they may well eventually land the remaining 4 corner schools to strengthen that conference further. I've always liked the idea of performance based revenue distribution which is at least a start for the ACC, but even with that, the top programs in the ACC will not approach what SEC and Big 10 schools are raking in.


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Re: ACC commish: conference open to expansion

Postby Charleston Pony » Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:15 pm

orguy wrote:
Charleston Pony wrote:While the ACC is currently 3rd on the revenue list, you have to give the Big XII credit for being aggressive in expansion and they may well eventually land the remaining 4 corner schools to strengthen that conference further. I've always liked the idea of performance based revenue distribution which is at least a start for the ACC, but even with that, the top programs in the ACC will not approach what SEC and Big 10 schools are raking in.


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As someone who has always lived in the central and eastern time zones, I will readily confess that I did not like being in the WAC and I'm not overly excited about joining the PAC in today's environment knowing the Big 10 could pick off Oregon and Washington (and any other PAC team for that matter) any time they want to. You are in denial if you don't think there is an east coast bias in college football and I'm not real excited about trading our spot in the AAC for what could become an expanded MWC. You can call the Big XII commish whatever you'd like but I sure hope the PAC is able to keep it's remaining 9 schools together and that "moron" isn't able to destroy the PAC which is clearly his goal.
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Re: ACC commish: conference open to expansion

Postby dickey1331 » Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:57 pm

Rumor is Florida St and Miami would leave the ACC for the B1G. So makes sense why they say SMU to the ACC.


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Re: ACC commish: conference open to expansion

Postby Dukie » Sat Jul 29, 2023 1:52 am

dickey1331 wrote:Rumor is Florida St and Miami would leave the ACC for the B1G. So makes sense why they say SMU to the ACC.


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There are lots of credible rumors but this is not one. The B1G has never admitted a non-AAU member and they aren’t going to start with FSU.
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Re: ACC commish: conference open to expansion

Postby Charleston Pony » Sat Jul 29, 2023 6:53 am

Dukie wrote:
dickey1331 wrote:Rumor is Florida St and Miami would leave the ACC for the B1G. So makes sense why they say SMU to the ACC.


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There are lots of credible rumors but this is not one. The B1G has never admitted a non-AAU member and they aren’t going to start with FSU.


I always thought the B1G would go after Virginia and UNC (with Ga Tech and Miami a couple of additional possibilities) if they ever decided to raid the ACC. Clemson and FSU are better SEC candidates. Of course, if the USC/UCLA move works out well, Oregon & Washington would seem to be the no-brainer "next" expansion moves for the B1G. All are AAU members
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Re: ACC commish: conference open to expansion

Postby EastStang » Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:18 am

Living in ACC territory, the UVA - UNC to B1G makes sense. They have a long history with Maryland. They would then blanket the DC area. UVA and UNC would up their hoops brand. Clemson/FSU to SEC makes sense as well. Their cultures are similar.
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Re: ACC commish: conference open to expansion

Postby SMUFan » Sat Jul 29, 2023 4:58 pm

Maybe so, but how much does hoops matter? I keep remembering, during the last realignment shift, Bill Self talked about Kansas being a program without a direction, "because basketball doesn't matter."
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Re: ACC commish: conference open to expansion

Postby redpony » Sat Jul 29, 2023 5:47 pm

somewhat confusing. the ACC commissioner says they would only be interested in schools that add significant value etc. And then at the top of their list is WVU? hardly a bastion of education and not in keeping with the likes of a Clemson or FSU when is comes to sports.
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Re: ACC commish: conference open to expansion

Postby Lefty » Sat Jul 29, 2023 7:29 pm

West Virginia would be a really weird fit. But that would be true almost anywhere. Culturally, it fits the Big 12, I guess, but it's so far removed geographically that it's an awkward fit there, too.
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Re: ACC commish: conference open to expansion

Postby EastStang » Sat Jul 29, 2023 7:35 pm

WVU has begged to join the ACC for years. Maryland used to blackball them along with the former BE schools who hate them. I don’t see an ACC invite in their future. In Virginia, instead of Aggie and Oakie jokes, people tell WVA jokes.
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Re: ACC commish: conference open to expansion

Postby crazy horse » Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:02 pm

Just did a quick tour of various ACC expansion sites and was surprised to see SMU continually mentioned and positively in most cases. I have always understood SMUs value, largely do to our location. Its nice to see others value what SMU can offer.

I did not think the ACC was in play, but the chatter seems to indicate that they might be. Few have mentioned Notre Dame - Are they still affiliated with the ACC and stubbornly clinging to their FB independence? Getting them all in could be a game changer. Though, Big 10 seems to make more sense for them in that scenario.

I assume the SMU play means additional TV dollars, along with all the other benefits of being in Dallas and Texas. WVU is another mentioned. Don't really get the appeal there, other than the historical connection. Maybe they are just tired of being on the island alone. The addition of UC and UCF to the Big 12 seems to address that concern.

Just searching for anything to give me hope, as the PAC12 thing continues to look less viable with every day that passes.
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