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With the demise of the PAC-12, SMU’s best option for P5 status is:

A) work with remaining PAC-4 members and create a revitalized PAC-12
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44%
B) Be patient and wait for the ACC
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18%
C) Stay pat - it’s a good thing we play UNT and Rice now
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15%
D) Why bother? Peruna’s Law is in effect and it makes no difference what we do.
5
13%
E) Other
4
10%
 
Total votes : 39

Poll - SMU should . . . .

Postby Statler » Sat Aug 12, 2023 6:46 pm

There has been a lot of posts on what the Ponies should do, and we have not had a poll in quite a while, so here goes. I know I could have given other options but I wanted to keep it simple. I am leaning to option 1. Canzano is reporting in his mailbag that the PAC-4 have hired Oliver Luck to give them a game plan. He is also reporting SMU has been using Oliver Luck. If you do vote other, please give an explanation.
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Re: Poll - SMU should . . . .

Postby PlanoStang » Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:49 pm

Create or join a class action lawsuit against ESPN for creating monopolistic t bargaining conditions in an NCAA amateur sport.
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Re: Poll - SMU should . . . .

Postby Drum Major » Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:52 pm

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Re: Poll - SMU should . . . .

Postby mtrout » Sat Aug 12, 2023 9:08 pm

Poor Kliavkoff. He's going get 10million+ over the next 3 years to do nothing. Well...he's basically been doing nothing the whole time it seems.

We need to hope Stanford doesn't get into a P4 conference then just go with them. I expect some sort of resolution before the season starts.
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Re: Poll - SMU should . . . .

Postby Statler » Sat Aug 12, 2023 9:55 pm

mtrout wrote:Poor Kliavkoff. He's going get 10million+ over the next 3 years to do nothing. Well...he's basically been doing nothing the whole time it seems.

We need to hope Stanford doesn't get into a P4 conference then just go with them. I expect some sort of resolution before the season starts.



In the PAC-4 scenario what Stanford wants — Stanford gets.

(What do I know?!?). However it appears to me that if this scenario works, the key piece was the Old CUSA plan — get the service academies involved. Let them have huge leeway on income from media games. Think of the attendance factor for the SF, SD, Dallas area alone. The Academies solve academics.

So it looks like this:

Stanford
Cal
OSU
WSU
SDSU
CSU

SMU
AF
Navy
Army
Tulane

Then ur pick USF, Memphis, Rice.

BBall substitutes for Navy and Army - Gonzaga & Wichita State (or any other BBall school)
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Re: Poll - SMU should . . . .

Postby SMUstang » Sun Aug 13, 2023 9:31 am

Two American Conference divisions, east and west. The Pac-4 plus the Texas and Oklahoma teams in the west. Everyone else in the east. Round robin in each division. Championship game between the winners of each division. ESPN linear coverage for everyone. Apple comes in and gets their foot in the door by broadcasting the Pac-4 in the daytime on Apple TV.

Could something like this happen? Aresco thinks it can. And with his connections, vision, and track record who would bet against him?
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Re: Poll - SMU should . . . .

Postby PonyEnergy » Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:44 am

SMUstang wrote:Two American Conference divisions, east and west. The Pac-4 plus the Texas and Oklahoma teams in the west. Everyone else in the east. Round robin in each division. Championship game between the winners of each division. ESPN linear coverage for everyone. Apple comes in and gets their foot in the door by broadcasting the Pac-4 in the daytime on Apple TV.

Could something like this happen? Aresco thinks it can. And with his connections who would bet against him?


I’m all in on this!
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Re: Poll - SMU should . . . .

Postby orguy » Sun Aug 13, 2023 3:31 pm

Drum Major wrote:https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1690428022527254528?s=20

I liked this lineup.


Stanford/Cal have a deep aversion to playing Boise. Unlikey this scenario
is realized though stranger things have happened.
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Re: Poll - SMU should . . . .

Postby Dukie » Sun Aug 13, 2023 4:17 pm

orguy wrote:
Drum Major wrote:https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1690428022527254528?s=20

I liked this lineup.


Stanford/Cal have a deep aversion to playing Boise. Unlikey this scenario
is realized though stranger things have happened.

OK. Do Mandel’s scenario but swap Colo St for Boise.
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Re: Poll - SMU should . . . .

Postby Drum Major » Sun Aug 13, 2023 4:29 pm

Dukie wrote:
orguy wrote:
Drum Major wrote:https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1690428022527254528?s=20

I liked this lineup.


Stanford/Cal have a deep aversion to playing Boise. Unlikey this scenario
is realized though stranger things have happened.

OK. Do Mandel’s scenario but swap Colo St for Boise.


That's a good swap.
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Re: Poll - SMU should . . . .

Postby PonyPride » Sun Aug 13, 2023 4:45 pm

orguy wrote:
Drum Major wrote:https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1690428022527254528?s=20

I liked this lineup.


Stanford/Cal have a deep aversion to playing Boise. Unlikey this scenario
is realized though stranger things have happened.

Read somewhere that Stanford and Cal also want nothing to do with San Jose State and Fresno State for academic reasons.
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Re: Poll - SMU should . . . .

Postby SMUstang » Sun Aug 13, 2023 5:19 pm

There is no reason to involve any MWC team at all. They bring nothing but the Mountain Time Zone which we don’t need. They only complicate the issue. What needs to happen ASAP is to get the PAC-4 into a conference with national linear media rights beyond 2024. Big markets and good competition would be a plus too.
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Re: Poll - SMU should . . . .

Postby SMUstang » Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:34 pm

Sorry but my thoughts don’t jive with the party line on here.
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Re: Poll - SMU should . . . .

Postby Insane_Pony_Posse » Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:44 pm

SMUstang wrote:"Two American Conference divisions, east and west. The Pac-4 plus the Texas and Oklahoma teams in the west"

Stanford and Cal in a conference/division with North Texas State?
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Re: Poll - SMU should . . . .

Postby ROCKNEPONY » Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:13 pm

AAC-PAC Merger P5?

WEST [9]
                 
STANFORD                                          
CAL                                    
RICE                                 
SMU                             
TULANE                
OR-ST                    
WA-ST
SDSU
NAVY

EAST [9]

UNT
UTSA
TULSA
MEMPHIS
USF
FAU
TEMPLE
ECU
UAB

If the the AAC & PAC merge, can they hold onto power status and does this allow Stanford to play Eastern teams less often reducing travel and negative association?
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