What a liar

by **friarwolf** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:15 am

By the way, I will repeat. Check out how many kids from the state of North Carolina play for Duke. 1 kid on this year's roster........Would it be nice to get local kids???? Sure, but it isn't necessary. We need kids who can play and meet the entrance requirements and that means casting a wide net........

by **couch 'em** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:23 am

DISD coaches may badmouth SMU, but I have a hard time believing the kids will keep this grudge when Doh goes to them and gives them the "that was Copeland" routine and stares at them with his I-am-a-badass-play-for-me eyebrows. Most of them never even knew Tubbs.

by **Hoop Fan** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:24 am

friarwolf wrote:Morgan who is closer to 6'5" than 6"7" told people that Michigan had offered him. Turns out they had expressed mild interest - nothing more. He's a good player at the high school level but has always played as a low post guy. That's why he didn't receive more interest this year. I wish we could sign his dad................

Being able to recruit south of the Trinity would be nice but calling a spade a spade as hoop said, it isn't going to happen - at least not in the forceable future. So, we have the rest of the USA to recruit and Doherty does know the heads of the successful summer teams so he focuses his efforts there. We have the draw of Big D, a beautiful campus with hot babes, and a recognizable name coaching here now. It's not like we are having to convince kids to come to backwater, USA.

what a shame that we have to accept being persona non grata in our own backyard, which happens to be one of the best hotbeds for hoops around. It is of course true that there are plenty of players everywhere, but the fact is that SMU is in Dallas. Our only chance to attract real blue chips is local kids who for various personal reasons want to play close to home. We are never going to get a top 75 player from anywhere outside of North Texas these days. We dont play in a good enough league and television is too important. We need to have access to ALL of the Dallas schools, not just half of them. We need to get a few local blue chips and then supplement them with the best talent we can get from around the country like Morris and Bamba Fall. That is a strategy. Giving the finger to the hotbed in your backyard is not.

by **DickerJames** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:27 am

I was wondering where all of the "screw the DISD we don't need them" posters had gone. I see that your are back, but if you believe what our new coach said yesterday, they are important to him.

by **BRStang** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:27 am

Stallion wrote:

some of you guys are just plain ignorant-spouting BS off the top of your head like you actually know what you are talking about. We ain't just talking about DISD-we are talking about the Metroplex-Now try to go find a successful program in this part of the country that hasn't made strong recruiting inroads into the Dallas Metroplex. I suggest you SHUT UP until you can answer that question. This is a serious problem for SMU that obviously flies over the head of many.

Hey Mr. Arrogant: What "part of the country" are you talking about? Within 300 miles of Dallas? (In which case what "successful" programs are you talking about--UT, ATM?) If not, look at LSU, OU, Kansas, Wichita St., Memphis, NM, UTEP. Geez. Stop being such an a-hole.

by **MustangIcon** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:30 am

I don't think anyone is suggesting giving the finger to anyone. Relationships are important anywhere and everywhere and SMU will begin rebuilding its relationship with DISD. I think the point he is making is that just bc we might fall on hard times with DISD in the short term does NOT mean that all is lost. We can still get some good recruits from other areas until we start winning and DISD starts to warm up to us again.

by **Hoop Fan** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:33 am

MustangIcon wrote:I don't think anyone is suggesting giving the finger to anyone. Relationships are important anywhere and everywhere and SMU will begin rebuilding its relationship with DISD. I think the point he is making is that just bc we might fall on hard times with DISD in the short term does NOT mean that all is lost. We can still get some good recruits from other areas until we start winning and DISD starts to warm up to us again.

don't you understand, the finger has already been given and received. Whether we meant to do it is irrelevant really. We hid behind the ncaa and some bullcrap double talk. We fired one of their own and no one really understands the real reasons why. That constitutes the proverbial finger my friend.

by **mr. pony** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:37 am

[quote="Hoop Fan"][quote="mr. pony"]Oh, yeah, the brother act from a DISD school worked real well for us before.

We'll be fine.[/quote]

what a stupid comment.[/quote]

All I was saying was we shouldn't get all excited because some kid has a brother that might come to SMU. The possibility is NOT worth basing our choice of a coach on.

by **Rosebud** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:45 am

Coach Doherty has had great success as a recruiter before, and there's no reason he can't again. Sure, a little time might be necessary with some of the local coaches, but having a great salesman sitting down with them and hashing out differences might speed up the healing process.

by **MustangIcon** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:47 am

No Rosebud. You are wrong. DISD players only want to play for coaches with DISD ties- period. We are doomed. Any intelligent person can see that. Your ignorance infuriates me. Tubbs is gone and there will never be another DISD recruit again.

by **Blunt Pony** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 11:06 am

Stallion wrote:some of you guys are just plain ignorant-spouting BS off the top of your head like you actually know what you are talking about. We ain't just talking about DISD-we are talking about the Metroplex-Now try to go find a successful program in this part of the country that hasn't made strong recruiting inroads into the Dallas Metroplex. I suggest you SHUT UP until you can answer that question. This is a serious problem for SMU that obviously flies over the head of many.

You know what, some kids might actually think that a quick trigger on a coach whose team was not performing well and was caught up in some albeit minor violations actually shows a committment to putting together a winning program. I would not worry so much about the threats or promises of DISD coaches. As many (including the DISD coaches) said, the ultimate decision lies with the kids themselves.

by **Rosebud** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 11:11 am

I think they're hacked off because they realize they weren't able to make SMU do what they wanted anymore. If Coach Doherty goes out and gets a good player from North Carolina or Kansas or New York, I'll cheer for them just as much as I would if they sign a team full of guys from Dallas. I'm not a fan of people who grew up in Dallas - I'm a fan of SMU.

by **nc pony** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:34 pm

I am so sick of the DISD talk. Yes we want local kids to come to games, get interested and sign. Play close to home for a great program. Dallas IS a fertile recruiting ground, and we should be able to tap that resource. DA's and Bosh's, no we will probably never get unless we improve as a program.

HOWEVER, Doherty does have the most important recruiting inroads...AAU teams and coaches. This is who he will recruit from, and in my opinion, who he will have the most success with. And he can do that ANYWHERE in the country!!!!!

by **The Stampede** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:39 pm

ncpony - AGREED! It's not like the DISD coaches are steering what schools these kids play for; it's all about the AAU coaches (see Arthur and Jazzy Hartwell).

by **SMU Football Blog** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:00 pm

The Stampede wrote:ncpony - AGREED! It's not like the DISD coaches are steering what schools these kids play for; it's all about the AAU coaches (see Arthur and Jazzy Hartwell).

I assume everyone knows that new SMU Assistant Coach James Stafford is a former AAU coach.

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