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by HFvictory » Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:15 pm
SMU Football Blog wrote:I'd prefer both talent and size over "just talent" or "just size," but I will take "just talent" over "just size" any day of the week.
Thankfully my wife feels the same.
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by The PonyGrad » Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:25 pm
I don't get it, all the QBs on our roster are 6-1 to 6-4. Is there a problem here? Where does short end? 
Go Ponies!! Beat whoever it is we are playing!! @PonyGrad
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by Stallion » Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:33 pm
you obviously have never seen Justin Willis up close if you really think he is 6-1 or for that matter any of our QBs are their reported heights-they ain't.
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by MustangIcon » Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:36 pm
As for where short ends. When you have an O-Line of guys 6'3-6'5 (or bigger at many big time programs) in height fighting off D-Ends and Tackles the same height and with long wingspans, it can be problematic to have 5'11 QBs running around the pocket trying to complete passes.
I think Willis is going to be a good QB for us and I am pretty optomistic about the upcoming season. With that said, there is no way he falls in the 6'1-6'4 range you just described. In fact I don't think he is even 6 ft tall if we really measured him.
I am in no way knocking this prospect. He is probably a pretty damn good player based on the schools that are looking at him. Just giving some insight as to why people insist on having tall QBs.
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by HFvictory » Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:14 pm
MustangIcon wrote:As for where short ends. When you have an O-Line of guys 6'3-6'5 (or bigger at many big time programs) in height fighting off D-Ends and Tackles the same height and with long wingspans, it can be problematic to have 5'11 QBs running around the pocket trying to complete passes.
I think Willis is going to be a good QB for us and I am pretty optomistic about the upcoming season. With that said, there is no way he falls in the 6'1-6'4 range you just described. In fact I don't think he is even 6 ft tall if we really measured him.
I am in no way knocking this prospect. He is probably a pretty damn good player based on the schools that are looking at him. Just giving some insight as to why people insist on having tall QBs.
Most QBs throw through open lanes and well over the top of any oncoming rusher no matter the height. Vision can be a roblem, but it works both ways (hard for d to see the qb),. Number one reason for the desire of big QBs is similar to pitchers, arm strength.
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by MustangIcon » Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:26 pm
HFvictory wrote:MustangIcon wrote:As for where short ends. When you have an O-Line of guys 6'3-6'5 (or bigger at many big time programs) in height fighting off D-Ends and Tackles the same height and with long wingspans, it can be problematic to have 5'11 QBs running around the pocket trying to complete passes.
I think Willis is going to be a good QB for us and I am pretty optomistic about the upcoming season. With that said, there is no way he falls in the 6'1-6'4 range you just described. In fact I don't think he is even 6 ft tall if we really measured him.
I am in no way knocking this prospect. He is probably a pretty damn good player based on the schools that are looking at him. Just giving some insight as to why people insist on having tall QBs.
Most QBs throw through open lanes and well over the top of any oncoming rusher no matter the height. Vision can be a roblem, but it works both ways (hard for d to see the qb),. Number one reason for the desire of big QBs is similar to pitchers, arm strength.
I believe coaches evaluate a QBs arm strength based on their actual arm strength not their height. 
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by stampedesbabyboy » Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:34 pm
Stallion;
I am glad to know that you have been a loyal attendee of SMU football games.
Two Questions;
1. Have you ever stood next to Justin Willis? If so, when?
2. Do you have any problem with Justin Willis if he wins any games for us?
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by HFvictory » Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:58 pm
MustangIcon wrote:HFvictory wrote:MustangIcon wrote:As for where short ends. When you have an O-Line of guys 6'3-6'5 (or bigger at many big time programs) in height fighting off D-Ends and Tackles the same height and with long wingspans, it can be problematic to have 5'11 QBs running around the pocket trying to complete passes.
I think Willis is going to be a good QB for us and I am pretty optomistic about the upcoming season. With that said, there is no way he falls in the 6'1-6'4 range you just described. In fact I don't think he is even 6 ft tall if we really measured him.
I am in no way knocking this prospect. He is probably a pretty damn good player based on the schools that are looking at him. Just giving some insight as to why people insist on having tall QBs.
Most QBs throw through open lanes and well over the top of any oncoming rusher no matter the height. Vision can be a roblem, but it works both ways (hard for d to see the qb),. Number one reason for the desire of big QBs is similar to pitchers, arm strength.
I believe coaches evaluate a QBs arm strength based on their actual arm strength not their height. 
I will draw the lines & connect the dots if you would like...
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by stampedesbabyboy » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:56 pm
Stallion.....what QB would you like to come see play in Ford Stadium?
I know that you have thoroughly evaluated all of the upcoming QB's in the state. i.e stood next to them and eyeballed them....
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by davidsmu94 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:50 pm
stampedesbabyboy wrote:Stallion.....what QB would you like to come see play in Ford Stadium? I know that you have thoroughly evaluated all of the upcoming QB's in the state. i.e stood next to them and eyeballed them....
Don't pick on Stallion, he calls it how it is......
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by Corso » Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:58 am
Stallion wrote:You're just a tad incorrect. I haven't missed an SMU home football game in 41 years. And I already saw the other offers but I'm sick and tired of SMU filling their QB slot with midgets whose height they have to "exaggerate" by 1-2 inches. I'd like to actually get one of the Top 7-8 QBs in Texas for a change. Just once every 4 years or so.
How does this work -- any player you don't cut-and-paste first is stretching his height?
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by socite » Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:58 am
Anybody know how tall Lance McIlheny was? I don't think he much taller than six feet- if that tall, but I recall seeing SMU win quite a few games when he was our quarterback.
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by ponydawg » Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:06 am
of course there are always exceptions every now and then, my favorite little exception - Doug Flutie.
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by jtstang » Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:22 am
stampedesbabyboy wrote:Stallion; I am glad to know that you have been a loyal attendee of SMU football games. Two Questions; 1. Have you ever stood next to Justin Willis? If so, when? 2. Do you have any problem with Justin Willis if he wins any games for us?
That's three questions, braniac.
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by originaloverthehilltop1 » Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:30 am
stand next to 'em? all you had to do was watch all those third down passes knocked down in the backfield the last couple years to know the value of tall qbs.
everything else equal:
stronger arms are better than weaker (who disagrees with that?)
taller qbs are better
more mobile qbs are better than slow clods
better linemen alleviate some shortcomings in characteristics above
ok, everything else is never equal. we'll see how these shorter guys do. but lets not resolve to recruit short, slow, weak armed qbs with great leadership skills!
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