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Postby EastStang » Sat Dec 09, 2006 1:43 pm

Let me point out to you what he means by a Prep School. There are high schools that allow students to play a post graduate year of sports. They are mostly in the east and many are military schools. Fork Union Academy and Hargrove Military Academy in Virginia comes to mind. I know they boast of two Heisman Trophy grads. These are students who for the most part graduated from high school with a less than 2.0 average or had a horrendous SAT score and did not take college preparatory courses in high school. By going to a prep school for a year, they can get themselves to a level that they can go to college.
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Postby bigdaddy08091 » Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:30 pm

EastStang wrote:Let me point out to you what he means by a Prep School. There are high schools that allow students to play a post graduate year of sports. They are mostly in the east and many are military schools. Fork Union Academy and Hargrove Military Academy in Virginia comes to mind. I know they boast of two Heisman Trophy grads. These are students who for the most part graduated from high school with a less than 2.0 average or had a horrendous SAT score and did not take college preparatory courses in high school. By going to a prep school for a year, they can get themselves to a level that they can go to college.


In Texas we call it a Juco.
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Postby abezontar » Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:01 pm

not exactly, because as I understand it you don't lose any eligibility by going to prep school, but you do by going the Juco route.
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Postby bigdaddy08091 » Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:45 pm

abezontar wrote:not exactly, because as I understand it you don't lose any eligibility by going to prep school, but you do by going the Juco route.


Point made. Can we get some of these players, or do they even exist in college football? They still have to come in and learn the schemes, as well as learn what bout the program. In basketball it is different due to 5 on 5 and other simple aspects. If you are 6-6 230 and can play, you can play! Football is a totally different animal, we all know this.
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Postby bigdaddy08091 » Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:37 am

bigdaddy08091 wrote:
EastStang wrote:Let me point out to you what he means by a Prep School. There are high schools that allow students to play a post graduate year of sports. They are mostly in the east and many are military schools. Fork Union Academy and Hargrove Military Academy in Virginia comes to mind. I know they boast of two Heisman Trophy grads. These are students who for the most part graduated from high school with a less than 2.0 average or had a horrendous SAT score and did not take college preparatory courses in high school. By going to a prep school for a year, they can get themselves to a level that they can go to college.


In Texas we call it a Juco.


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Postby giacfsp » Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:09 pm

Stallion wrote:Ponyboy instead of coming on here and repeatedly making a fool of yourself why don't you stick with making pom-poms and banners for that great basketball team of ours. You know the one with the JUCO Ike(the "Star"), the star Prep School Bamba (the "Franchise") and the star Prep School recruit Papa Dia (the "Future"). And when you are done making those banners and posters with your suck-up buddies about the Star, The Franchise and the Future you can tell everybody how wrong I have been the last 10 years.
You mean when you wrote that Bamba was "at least 2 or 3 years away from contributing" because he came off the bench in high school? Or how about when you wrote that Coach Bennett's decision to play the Justin Willis was going to render the SMU offense incapable of scoring/moving the ball while your "best QB on the roster," Chris Phillips, served as a backup and then moved positions? This comment is not to bash Phillips, because I like him and think he was a decent player who could have become a very good one -- who knows. But the fact is that Coach Bennett was right to play Willis, Mr. CUSA Freshman of the Year, Mr. Freshman All-America.

The reason I remember your "Bamba is a few years away" and "playing Willis is just wrong" comments is because at the time, I agreed with you. I was wrong, and so were you. So instead of mocking Ponyboy and anyone else who simply has an opinion that's different from yours, try lightening up and explaining your opinion rather than mocking anyone who has a different opinion. Don't come back with "because my opinion's right," either. I think about your comments (the ones I admittedly agreed with) every time Bamba swats a shot into the bench and each time Willis extends his touchdown records. Say it with me: WE WERE WRONG. It won't kill you. Admit it.
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Postby Stallion » Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:19 pm

Never said Bamba was 2-3 years away from contributing and never claimed Chris Phillips should be starting over Justin Willis this year. I strongly supported Justin Willis after the spring game and after NTSU when some said Slater should get a chance. Other than you completely manufacturing your argument to make yourself look good you are 100% right. Now about 2-3 years ago in the context of Romo and Eckert I said that SMU should not be playing for 2004 and 2005 by using second tier stop gap QBs but instead should have developed Phillips for 2006 which I saw as SMU's best chance for a bowl game. Then I said that Bennett would rue the Day he didn't develop Phillips and that it would possibly cost him his job in 2006 if he didn't go to a Bowl Game. It very possibly did as Christian Slater was completely unprepared against UTEP-a Senior experienced QB even as a Backup could have been the difference between a bowl game and 6-6. Everybody knows Phil Bennett came very close to losing his job-I'll stand by my prediction. I was and am right about Bamba as he will score 1 point against quality Division 1A opponent and then score 17 against a Division II team. He is a 2-3 year project. Hasn't made much progress at all this year against quality opposition.
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Postby Recruiting Guru » Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:28 pm

Stallion wrote:.... It very possibly did as Christian Slater was completely unprepared ....
I follow recruiting so much that I don't get to see as many games as I'd like (made it to two this year), but I didn't know Christian Slater had given up his Hollywood career to play football. :wink:
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Postby MrMustang1965 » Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:33 pm

Recruiting Guru wrote:
Stallion wrote:.... It very possibly did as Christian Slater was completely unprepared ....
I follow recruiting so much that I don't get to see as many games as I'd like (made it to two this year), but I didn't know Christian Slater had given up his Hollywood career to play football. :wink:
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Postby bigdaddy08091 » Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:26 pm

MrMustang1965 wrote:
Recruiting Guru wrote:
Stallion wrote:.... It very possibly did as Christian Slater was completely unprepared ....
I follow recruiting so much that I don't get to see as many games as I'd like (made it to two this year), but I didn't know Christian Slater had given up his Hollywood career to play football. :wink:
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This is all a bunch of [deleted]. We just need palyers, prep, gray, red, black, white, or whatever. Thank God none of us coach or recruit, because we a [deleted] idiots to listen to Stallion, Bigadaddy, or anyone else. The game is playd on the field. We need to shut htis bulllsjit down adn start recruiting players, because if we listen to Stallion or Expony18, we will be 6-6 for years to come!! Leave the site please, and leave the FAN base please. You contribute nothting!!!!!!!!
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Postby ALEX LIFESON » Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:41 pm

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Postby bigdaddy08091 » Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:49 pm

bigdaddy08091 wrote:
abezontar wrote:not exactly, because as I understand it you don't lose any eligibility by going to prep school, but you do by going the Juco route.


Point made. Can we get some of these players, or do they even exist in college football? They still have to come in and learn the schemes, as well as learn what bout the program. In basketball it is different due to 5 on 5 and other simple aspects. If you are 6-6 230 and can play, you can play! Football is a totally different animal, we all know this.


Still, if you are not ready coming out of HS to SMU. Why are we wasting out time recruiting you? We need players, not some [deleted] Prep School Player coming out of HS. Send his [deleted] to a juco or we can gray/redshirt him and go from there. Some of you have nothing better to do, do you?
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Postby EastStang » Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:04 pm

We have one player on the football roster from a prep school. Two of Ohio State's three Heisman winners went to a prep school. Yes, there are football players there.
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Postby expony18 » Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:29 am

bigdaddy08091 wrote:we a [deleted] idiots to listen to Stallion, Bigadaddy, or anyone else. The game is playd on the field. We need to shut htis bulllsjit down adn start recruiting players, because if we listen to Stallion or Expony18, we will be 6-6 for years to come!! Leave the site please, and leave the FAN base please. You contribute nothting!!!!!!!!

1.first off you say listening to you makes us all $%&#(@ idiots, so please spare us and stop posting...
2. thank-you for listing me in a Satllion thread, let alone as placing me in the same thought...
3. but stallion IS one of the most educated posters on this board about recruiting, etc.
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Postby ponyboy » Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:31 am

bigdaddy08091 wrote: I am quite sure players post on this site. I hope to God we are not scaring anyone off, or scaring off recruits.


That's a big concern of mine too and my main objection to the incessant vitriol. Stallion and his converts aren't going away, though. I can only hope I'm wrong and that his program does us some good. An argument can be made that it already has as many of the changes he's called for over the years have come to fruition -- such as a lessening in admission standards for athletes. Or maybe jt's right and no one of consequence reads this or takes any of it seriously anyway.
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