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Postby EastStang » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:55 pm

We all know that kids don't move toward us early unless (1) they really want to come here. (2) They haven't gotten any other offers. (3) They don't think they're going to get other offers from BCS programs that interest them. Until UT, OU, and A&M fill their slots, other schools rarely get committments. As far as the College and University of North Texas getting three (3) recruits already, I don't know if they were ones that we were truly interested in, or all the things surrounding their choice of school.
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Postby mavsrage311 » Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:25 pm

HFvictory wrote:
mustangfan01 wrote:Tre is a good running back, but he can't hold Sam McGuffie's jock.


This kid is one of THE most amazing high school running backs I have ever seen...and he will be a senior this year at Cy Fair.


5'10" 190 pound white boy....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4IJ17ODo_s


Watch that video and you will see what I mean.



I think the world already knows about McGuffie however he will won't play RB in Div 1. Newton is a power back with good speed and definitely the better choice at that position.


I'll bet you any amount that McGuffie DOES play running back, and for a top level BCS school
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Postby JayM » Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:20 pm

EastStang wrote: As far as the College and University of North Texas getting three (3) recruits already, I don't know if they were ones that we were truly interested in, or all the things surrounding their choice of school.


You are really laughable :D

Franklin had offers from Tulsa, Iowa State & Colorado State

Taylor was offered by Tulsa & had strong interest from Utah

Williams was being targeted by Rice & was to attend their summer camp, had interest from Tulsa & several other schools

They may not be good enough for you, but they're certainly good enough for programs much better than the Ponies ! 8)
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Postby PonyKai » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:18 pm

Of course it would NEVER be the case that maybe we weren't interested in these recruits because they don't fit are team model, behavioral issues, stacked at the position, wouldn't consider us anyway for a variety of reasons, or have something about thgem that doesn't sit right. It just HAS to be SMU sucks and they would never consider playing for such a poor program.
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Postby mustangfan01 » Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:09 am

I can't remember correctly but didn't we beat Tulsa last season?


God, what a stupid &%$@
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Postby HFvictory » Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:14 am

mavsrage311 wrote:
HFvictory wrote:
mustangfan01 wrote:Tre is a good running back, but he can't hold Sam McGuffie's jock.


This kid is one of THE most amazing high school running backs I have ever seen...and he will be a senior this year at Cy Fair.


5'10" 190 pound white boy....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4IJ17ODo_s


Watch that video and you will see what I mean.



I think the world already knows about McGuffie however he will won't play RB in Div 1. Newton is a power back with good speed and definitely the better choice at that position.


I'll bet you any amount that McGuffie DOES play running back, and for a top level BCS school


Bet he plays in the slot. Even he has said he is more suited for that position.
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Postby mavsrage311 » Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:00 pm

HFvictory wrote:
mavsrage311 wrote:
HFvictory wrote:
mustangfan01 wrote:Tre is a good running back, but he can't hold Sam McGuffie's jock.


This kid is one of THE most amazing high school running backs I have ever seen...and he will be a senior this year at Cy Fair.


5'10" 190 pound white boy....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4IJ17ODo_s


Watch that video and you will see what I mean.



I think the world already knows about McGuffie however he will won't play RB in Div 1. Newton is a power back with good speed and definitely the better choice at that position.


I'll bet you any amount that McGuffie DOES play running back, and for a top level BCS school


Bet he plays in the slot. Even he has said he is more suited for that position.


I can see him playing like Anthony Aldridge of UH. Starting out in the slot, taking some carries in the backfield. They both have the same type of game-changing speed
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Postby OC Mustang » Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:21 am

NickSMU17 wrote:Either way, this is discouraging for SMU and Bennet... We should be picking up guys earlier and competing with the better programs, we are not doing this....


SMU didn't even have Josh LeReibus (sic?) or Zach Rhodes this early. And until Texas started this "stack them early" crap, we wouldn't care.

On a related note, the NCAA should prohibit offers until September 1st or later of their senior year. All this crap would stop.
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Postby MustangIcon » Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:51 am

OC Mustang wrote:On a related note, the NCAA should prohibit offers until September 1st or later of their senior year. All this crap would stop.


Why should they do that? To help programs who can't compete with the current conditions of recruiting?

I for one like the early offers because they benifit the kids receiving them most. If UT/SMU/College for the Deaf and Blind commit abcxyz has a bad start to his senior year, has a slight injury or any number of other things the school will generally still honor his scholarship.
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Postby OC Mustang » Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:28 am

MustangIcon wrote:
OC Mustang wrote:On a related note, the NCAA should prohibit offers until September 1st or later of their senior year. All this crap would stop.


Why should they do that? To help programs who can't compete with the current conditions of recruiting?

I for one like the early offers because they benifit the kids receiving them most. If UT/SMU/College for the Deaf and Blind commit abcxyz has a bad start to his senior year, has a slight injury or any number of other things the school will generally still honor his scholarship.


I'll concede that it can be good for the kids receiving them, particularly in regards to your example.

As for helping programs who can't compete, you're d@mn right I think they should do that. If we all collectively want a farm league, then great. Just don't create it in colleges and have the NCAA sanction it. By reaching that much deeper into high schools, the bar is pushed farther and farther back such that performance must be seen earlier and earlier. What happened to a kid just being able to play a little ball with some other kids? I think it is wrong.

As for its direct effect on SMU, I want to pre-empt the accusation that I am focusing on the external threats in comparison to much more damaging internal weaknesses. I know that SMU has its own cross to bear, and a host of strategic blunders to boot. However, nothing good has come to SMU because of early commitments. Nada. Zippo. So why be an advocate of it?

The BCS is currently the most significant strategic "barrier to entry" for a school to compete with the "already-haves". That said, the current recruiting process buttresses the barrier by concentrating recruiting toward those schools. Again, why support a process that hurts SMU, regardless of whether it hurts SMU directly or indirectly?

Just my not-so-humble opinion.
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