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by J.T.supporta » Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:39 pm
SMUcane wrote:Trust Me. I am a die hard cane and i watched him ruin our program. he cant evaluate talent, ran a country club program, is a terrible motivator and cant make half time adjustments you do not want him! if you want further proof go to this canes board and ask anyone, ask for a poster named Shadow or Nole80 and you will get very respected opinions http://www.miami-hurricanes.com/forum/tt.asp?appid=1
i think by saying he ruined your program is a sign that youre blind to the fact that the U is just plain overrated in the ACC...only three loses when Coker coached in the big east...ACC has a lot better talent than the Big East
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by Hoop Fan » Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:44 pm
PonyDogg wrote:Hoop Fan wrote:PonyDogg wrote:Hoop Fan wrote:PonyDogg wrote:QuikSStang wrote:
1. yes he can. 1-11 doesnt mean it cant get worse 3. with butch davis' players and recruiting class
1. No he can't. 3. Who cares. He was OC and they won.
Vince Lombardi and Tom Landry are dead. This is a great coach. I believe that Orsini has an ace in the hole, but we should be really excited if we got Coker. He is a great coach. National championship and national coach of the year under his belt. WOW!
so, why would he come to SMU if he's so great? Why would Tulsa choose to hire a rookie head coach from Rice instead? Wow is right, but not the good kind of wow hire.
Did Tulsa win the National Championship?
\ No, your point? They took a look at Coker and said thanks but no thanks, even though he is a Tulsa former coach. They went to Rice to get their coach instead of the utterly available Coker.
Thank goodness you are not in charge of finding a coach. That is my point.
the feeling is totally mutual. If your idea of "finding" a coach is settling for Larry Freakin Coker who has been passed on by half of CUSA West, you might not be as savvy as you think. Why didn't Houston hire Coker, they are more like the U than we are. Tulsa, Houston, Rice...Coker wanted all those jobs no doubt. They passed.
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by PonyDogg » Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:49 pm
Hoop Fan wrote:PonyDogg wrote:Hoop Fan wrote:PonyDogg wrote:Hoop Fan wrote:PonyDogg wrote:QuikSStang wrote:
1. yes he can. 1-11 doesnt mean it cant get worse 3. with butch davis' players and recruiting class
1. No he can't. 3. Who cares. He was OC and they won.
Vince Lombardi and Tom Landry are dead. This is a great coach. I believe that Orsini has an ace in the hole, but we should be really excited if we got Coker. He is a great coach. National championship and national coach of the year under his belt. WOW!
so, why would he come to SMU if he's so great? Why would Tulsa choose to hire a rookie head coach from Rice instead? Wow is right, but not the good kind of wow hire.
Did Tulsa win the National Championship?
\ No, your point? They took a look at Coker and said thanks but no thanks, even though he is a Tulsa former coach. They went to Rice to get their coach instead of the utterly available Coker.
Thank goodness you are not in charge of finding a coach. That is my point.
the feeling is totally mutual. If your idea of "finding" a coach is settling for Larry Freakin Coker who has been passed on by half of CUSA West, you might not be as savvy as you think. Why didn't Houston hire Coker, they are more like the U than we are. Tulsa, Houston, Rice...Coker wanted all those jobs no doubt. They passed.
You are right. I will trust you instead of Orsini. You are clearly more qualified.
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by TheBestAvailable » Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:37 am
SMUcane wrote:Trust Me. I am a die hard cane and i watched him ruin our program. he cant evaluate talent, ran a country club program, is a terrible motivator and cant make half time adjustments you do not want him! if you want further proof go to this canes board and ask anyone, ask for a poster named Shadow or Nole80 and you will get very respected opinions http://www.miami-hurricanes.com/forum/tt.asp?appid=1
Since Coker won 2 national championships and the U(a very average team) hasn't won one since, who's ruining the program now??? Why haven't they won since Coker?
Why didn't Butch Davis who is a good coach by the way win a national championship with the same talent Coker had the first 2 seasons?
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by TheBestAvailable » Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:43 am
QuikSStang wrote:PonyDogg wrote: 1. Can't ruin our program.
2. We like Country Clubs.
3. He won a national championship.
4. Sounds like a good idea to me.
1. yes he can. 1-11 doesnt mean it cant get worse 3. with butch davis' players and recruiting class
How many national championships did Davis win with his own recruits??
Stoops won a title with someone elses players so does that mean he can't coach???
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by jackspub » Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:56 am
SMUcane wrote:Trust Me. I am a die hard cane and i watched him ruin our program. he cant evaluate talent, ran a country club program, is a terrible motivator and cant make half time adjustments you do not want him! if you want further proof go to this canes board and ask anyone, ask for a poster named Shadow or Nole80 and you will get very respected opinions http://www.miami-hurricanes.com/forum/tt.asp?appid=1
go to the miami board then
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by Insane_Pony_Posse » Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:58 am
i am not pro-coker to smu, but hasn't miami got worse after coker departed?
C-ya @ Milos!
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by perunaman24 » Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:01 am
PonyDogg wrote:SMUcane wrote:Trust Me. I am a die hard cane and i watched him ruin our program. he cant evaluate talent, ran a country club program, is a terrible motivator and cant make half time adjustments you do not want him! if you want further proof go to this canes board and ask anyone, ask for a poster named Shadow or Nole80 and you will get very respected opinions http://www.miami-hurricanes.com/forum/tt.asp?appid=1
! 1. Can't ruin our program. 2. We like Country Clubs. 3. He won a national championship. 4. Sounds like a good idea to me.
i like this guy
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by perunaman24 » Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:06 am
Hoop Fan wrote:PonyDogg wrote:QuikSStang wrote:
1. yes he can. 1-11 doesnt mean it cant get worse 3. with butch davis' players and recruiting class
1. No he can't. 3. Who cares. He was OC and they won. Vince Lombardi and Tom Landry are dead. This is a great coach. I believe that Orsini has an ace in the hole, but we should be really excited if we got Coker. He is a great coach. National championship and national coach of the year under his belt. WOW!
so, why would he come to SMU if he's so great? Why would Tulsa choose to hire a rookie head coach from Rice instead? Wow is right, but not the good kind of wow hire.
If im larry coker do i want to live in tulsa yeah to be honest i would kill myself before living in oklahoma f^#! OU
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by perunaman24 » Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:10 am
Hoop Fan wrote:PonyDogg wrote:Hoop Fan wrote:PonyDogg wrote:Hoop Fan wrote:PonyDogg wrote:QuikSStang wrote:
1. yes he can. 1-11 doesnt mean it cant get worse 3. with butch davis' players and recruiting class
1. No he can't. 3. Who cares. He was OC and they won.
Vince Lombardi and Tom Landry are dead. This is a great coach. I believe that Orsini has an ace in the hole, but we should be really excited if we got Coker. He is a great coach. National championship and national coach of the year under his belt. WOW!
so, why would he come to SMU if he's so great? Why would Tulsa choose to hire a rookie head coach from Rice instead? Wow is right, but not the good kind of wow hire.
Did Tulsa win the National Championship?
\ No, your point? They took a look at Coker and said thanks but no thanks, even though he is a Tulsa former coach. They went to Rice to get their coach instead of the utterly available Coker.
Thank goodness you are not in charge of finding a coach. That is my point.
the feeling is totally mutual. If your idea of "finding" a coach is settling for Larry Freakin Coker who has been passed on by half of CUSA West, you might not be as savvy as you think. Why didn't Houston hire Coker, they are more like the U than we are. Tulsa, Houston, Rice...Coker wanted all those jobs no doubt. They passed.
yeah man no doubt your a genius can i hire you to work for me i need some to clean my bathrooms
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by EastStang » Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:21 am
First, what were Tulsa and Rice offering a new coach salarywise? They might not have been able to meet Coker's salary demands. And to the guy who said that Houston is more like the University of Miami than SMU put down the crack pipe. The University of Miami is a PRIVATE school located in a large urban area. Hmm, that sort of sounds like SMU. Miami's average SAT scores are higher than SMU's. Hmm, doesn't sound like Houston. Some of their stars like Sean Taylor went to private high schools and were good students. Really doesn't sound like Houston. In other words, the guy is used to dealing with academic issues. On the other hand the ACC hasn't really been a world beater since the U arrived. Wake Forest won last year, Virginia Tech (another BE refugee) won the other two years. Schools like FSU, Georgia Tech, UNC, Maryland and Virginia have not been world beaters. And of course there is Duke who is every bit as bad as Temple was in the BE.
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by SMHoo » Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:04 am
Even if LC was passed over by Rice and UH, we could have worse things than a coach with a chip on his shoulder and something to prove, especially to in-conference schools. I think the PJ situation (and common sense) should've made it clear to everyone that the SMU job is not the most sought after, and this isn't some playground game where we should be afraid of the nerd picked last. A ton of variables go into who is hired at different schools, and we could do a whole lot worse than Coker, his NC, and his experience running a premier program.
People b!tched about Bennett not managing a game/preparing his players well and merely being a good x's and o' coordinator. Now, there's a chance to get a guy who has proven he can manage a game well and win (better than his predecessor Butch Davis probably), and people say he's merely a bus driver. Even if he had great athletes he was coaching, so did Mack Brown, Lloyd Carr, and numerous other top notch programs and they weren't as successful as Coker was with those great players. What gives?
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