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Postby expony18 » Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:17 pm

jtstang wrote:Stars or not, and other offers notwithstanding, I dare say that Jones, et al., have come in and done a fine job of putting a class together at the last minute. All of my moaning about recruiting escaping us may have been premature. Just think what this guy could do with a full recruiting calendar at his disposal. I sant to see these guys make good on Saturday, but soon.
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Postby redpony » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:01 pm

Rule 2- ignore rule 1. This class looks great- not because of the # of stars but the obvious desire of these guys to excel. My expectations are high not because of the recruits but what JJ can get out of them in performance. :D :D

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Postby MustangLaxer » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:28 pm

In JJ we trust. How many 3 star recruits did the past staff get in their five years??
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Postby expony18 » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:38 pm

MustangLaxer wrote:In JJ we trust. How many 3 star recruits did the past staff get in their five years??
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Postby perunapower » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:39 pm

MustangLaxer wrote:In JJ we trust. How many 3 star recruits did the past staff get in their five years??


24 according to Rivals.

1 in 2002.
-Anthony Barnett

10 in 2003.
-Justin Boren
-Avery Cleveland
-Zach Hall
-Desmond Jones
-Richuel Massey
-Ervin McGee
-Ricky Joe Meeks
-Cory Muse
-Chris Phillips
-Joe Sturdivant

1 in 2004.
-Vincent Chase

6 in 2005.
-Clayton Cox
-Columbus Givens
-Adrian Haywood
-Victor McKinde
-Curtis Powell
-Justin Willis

2 in 2006.
-Phillip Burley
-Bryan McCann

4 in 2007.
-De'von Bailey
-Derrius Bell
-Bradley Haynes
-Josh LeRibeus
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Postby expony18 » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:58 pm

perunapower wrote:
MustangLaxer wrote:In JJ we trust. How many 3 star recruits did the past staff get in their five years??


24 according to Rivals.

1 in 2002.
-Anthony Barnett

10 in 2003.
-Justin Boren
-Avery Cleveland
-Zach Hall
-Desmond Jones
-Richuel Massey
-Ervin McGee
-Ricky Joe Meeks
-Cory Muse, wish he didnt get hurt
-Chris Phillips
-Joe Sturdivant

1 in 2004.
-Vincent Chase, yet to see the full potential

6 in 2005.
-Clayton Cox
-Columbus Givens
-Adrian Haywood
-Victor McKinde
-Curtis Powell
-Justin Willis

2 in 2006.
-Phillip Burley yet to see full potential
-Bryan McCann yet to see full potential


4 in 2007.
-De'von Bailey
-Derrius Bell
-Bradley Haynes
-Josh LeRibeus
-yet to see.....
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Postby expony18 » Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:00 am

on top of that.... man anthony barnett was a bust, nice guy but major bust
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Postby smupony » Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:03 am

perunapower wrote:
MustangLaxer wrote:In JJ we trust. How many 3 star recruits did the past staff get in their five years??


24 according to Rivals.

1 in 2002.
-Anthony Barnett

10 in 2003.
-Justin Boren
-Avery Cleveland
-Zach Hall
-Desmond Jones
-Richuel Massey
-Ervin McGee
-Ricky Joe Meeks
-Cory Muse
-Chris Phillips
-Joe Sturdivant

1 in 2004.
-Vincent Chase

6 in 2005.
-Clayton Cox
-Columbus Givens
-Adrian Haywood
-Victor McKinde
-Curtis Powell
-Justin Willis

2 in 2006.
-Phillip Burley
-Bryan McCann

4 in 2007.
-De'von Bailey
-Derrius Bell
-Bradley Haynes
-Josh LeRibeus


What's amazing is how many of these guys never saw the field or even made it to graduation. I know kids come and go, but it seems like we tend to loose a lot of kids for one stupid reason or another. A couple never even made it to campus.
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Postby MustangIcon » Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:05 am

Expony, I would have highlighted Givens before Chase. He showed more in his time at SMU than Chase ever has in my opinion. I would agree with the rest of your highlights.

Also, of the '06 and '07 recruits, McCann has shown he will be a player in my opinion. I am excited to have him. The rest of the others I have only heard good things about. Bell and Bailey got some PT but I did not see anywhere near enough to pass any judgement at all thus far. They are all yet to be determined, like you said.
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Postby expony18 » Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:15 am

MustangIcon wrote:Expony, I would have highlighted Givens before Chase. He showed more in his time at SMU than Chase ever has in my opinion. I would agree with the rest of your highlights.

Also, of the '06 and '07 recruits, McCann has shown he will be a player in my opinion. I am excited to have him. The rest of the others I have only heard good things about. Bell and Bailey got some PT but I did not see anywhere near enough to pass any judgement at all thus far. They are all yet to be determined, like you said.
chase has a lot of potential, and that is the only reason I highlighted him... this COULD be a break out year for him, but with the change in offenses it's doubtful... givens has been decent but not consistent enough IMO. McCann i noted "yet to see full potential" along with chase... decent but not what i have expected from them.... as for bell and bailey, it is way too early to judge, that's why i said yet to see.
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Postby Stallion » Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:05 am

Former Offensive or Defensive Players of the Year;

Sturdivant
Haywood
Willis
Muse-best player if not hurt
McCann-most promising young player

The problem is that we need more top recruits. This year Walkons were Players of the Year and we finished 1-11
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Postby MustangLaxer » Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:39 am

Thanks perunapower...in a year where you go 1-11, from a coaching standpoint, why not let you walk ons have the player of the year awards. No doubt they deserve it and it could light a fire under some of the other guys.

--sledge was under scholarship, but i assume you meant former walk on
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Postby SMU Football Blog » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:00 am

expony18 wrote:
MustangIcon wrote:Expony, I would have highlighted Givens before Chase. He showed more in his time at SMU than Chase ever has in my opinion. I would agree with the rest of your highlights.

Also, of the '06 and '07 recruits, McCann has shown he will be a player in my opinion. I am excited to have him. The rest of the others I have only heard good things about. Bell and Bailey got some PT but I did not see anywhere near enough to pass any judgement at all thus far. They are all yet to be determined, like you said.
chase has a lot of potential, and that is the only reason I highlighted him... this COULD be a break out year for him, but with the change in offenses it's doubtful... givens has been decent but not consistent enough IMO. McCann i noted "yet to see full potential" along with chase... decent but not what i have expected from them.... as for bell and bailey, it is way too early to judge, that's why i said yet to see.


Uh, whether it was intentional or not, it was probably a good thing not to highlight Givens. Has this been discussed or not on the Football board? I haven't paid that close attention. Givens is gone and ain't coming back.
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Postby mrydel » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:12 am

SMU Football Blog wrote:
expony18 wrote:
MustangIcon wrote:Expony, I would have highlighted Givens before Chase. He showed more in his time at SMU than Chase ever has in my opinion. I would agree with the rest of your highlights.

Also, of the '06 and '07 recruits, McCann has shown he will be a player in my opinion. I am excited to have him. The rest of the others I have only heard good things about. Bell and Bailey got some PT but I did not see anywhere near enough to pass any judgement at all thus far. They are all yet to be determined, like you said.
chase has a lot of potential, and that is the only reason I highlighted him... this COULD be a break out year for him, but with the change in offenses it's doubtful... givens has been decent but not consistent enough IMO. McCann i noted "yet to see full potential" along with chase... decent but not what i have expected from them.... as for bell and bailey, it is way too early to judge, that's why i said yet to see.


Uh, whether it was intentional or not, it was probably a good thing not to highlight Givens. Has this been discussed or not on the Football board? I haven't paid that close attention. Givens is gone and ain't coming back.


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Postby MustangIcon » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:47 am

SMU Football Blog wrote:
expony18 wrote:
MustangIcon wrote:Expony, I would have highlighted Givens before Chase. He showed more in his time at SMU than Chase ever has in my opinion. I would agree with the rest of your highlights.

Also, of the '06 and '07 recruits, McCann has shown he will be a player in my opinion. I am excited to have him. The rest of the others I have only heard good things about. Bell and Bailey got some PT but I did not see anywhere near enough to pass any judgement at all thus far. They are all yet to be determined, like you said.
chase has a lot of potential, and that is the only reason I highlighted him... this COULD be a break out year for him, but with the change in offenses it's doubtful... givens has been decent but not consistent enough IMO. McCann i noted "yet to see full potential" along with chase... decent but not what i have expected from them.... as for bell and bailey, it is way too early to judge, that's why i said yet to see.


Uh, whether it was intentional or not, it was probably a good thing not to highlight Givens. Has this been discussed or not on the Football board? I haven't paid that close attention. Givens is gone and ain't coming back.

I know Givens is gone but I wasn't using the highlights to show who might be good next year, but to try to point out which of the 3 star recruits under Bennett could be thought of as impact guys and I had Givens ahead of Chase. If you were grading hard, neither would be on the list based on what they have done at SMU thus far.
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