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Postby ponyboy » Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:24 am

expony18 wrote: It doesn't matter who is playing QB with the defense we have, and that was the main issue, not Bo or Justin or Turner


Yes, the defense is a huge question mark. But, again, the subject was which QB gives us the best chance of winning. To me, you gotta go with Bo. And that's shocking. And therefore those of us who said otherwise at the beginning of the year are wrong and owe an apology to pony warrior.

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Postby expony18 » Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:25 am

ponyboy wrote:
expony18 wrote: It doesn't matter who is playing QB with the defense we have, and that was the main issue, not Bo or Justin or Turner


Yes, the defense is a huge question mark. But, again, the subject was which QB gives us the best chance of winning. To me, you gotta go with Bo. And that's shocking. And therefore those of use who said otherwise at the beginning of the year are eating wrong.

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once again my initial response was to where are all the bo haters... and i still want to know what your expectations were with Bo starting?
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Postby ponyboy » Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:27 am

There were a TON of people, including every national publication I saw, who openly and repeatedly questioned starting Bo over Justin.
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Postby expony18 » Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:30 am

ponyboy wrote:There were a TON of people, including every national publication I saw, who openly and repeatedly questioned starting Bo over Justin.
and rightfully so... picking a true freshmen over a QB with [insert justin willis stats here] and in 2006 who was 1 win away from going to a bowl game. I trust JJ decision making, but it doesn't mean that I would have made the same decision.
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Postby ponyboy » Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:31 am

And as to what I expected with Bo starting, I expected none of the maturity, pocket presence, accuracy and general grasp of this new offense. I expected panicky play. In short I expected the kind of play you'd expect from lightly recruited, low ranked, undersized guy -- the kind of play we've gotten from every other quarterback around here (other than Justin Willis) since Ramon Flanigan.
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Postby ponyboy » Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:32 am

expony18 wrote:
ponyboy wrote:There were a TON of people, including every national publication I saw, who openly and repeatedly questioned starting Bo over Justin.
and rightfully so... picking a true freshmen over a QB with [insert justin willis stats here] and in 2006 who was 1 win away from going to a bowl game. I trust JJ decision making, but it doesn't mean that I would have made the same decision.


I agree. And we were wrong my friend. Which is my entire point.

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Postby jtstang » Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:34 am

ponyboy wrote:But, again, the subject was which QB gives us the best chance of winning. To me, you gotta go with Bo. And that's shocking. And therefore those of us who said otherwise at the beginning of the year are wrong and owe an apology to pony warrior.

That is one man's opinion, and it assumes something about what Willis would have done had he been starting. An assumption that I do not share.

I wanted Willis as the starter too, and I, for one, do not owe any apologies to anyone for that.
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Postby SoCal_Pony » Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:46 am

expony18 wrote:only one thing matters "w's"... so far Bo has 1 (against texas state), so you might want to relax a little bit. i think it safe to say everyone on this board wants smu to win regardless of who is taking snaps


I think regardless of who was QB, JW or BLM, SMU would be 1-1 right now and 1-3 two weeks from now.

The answer to the JW-BLM riddle will be determined during conference play, but so far, BLM has done an excellent job and JJ looks pretty good with his QB decision.
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Postby pony warrior » Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:01 pm

[quote="Nacho"]Willis would have done better against Rice and would have beaten TSU also.[/quot

How are you so sure?
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Postby Alaric » Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:15 pm

this is where myrdel typically comes in to say you kids are just looking for an argument
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Postby Nacho » Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:36 pm

pony warrior wrote:
Nacho wrote:Willis would have done better against Rice and would have beaten TSU also.[/quot

How are you so sure?


I never saw JW throw 3 ints in one game. JW is a good QB. Without those 3 ints and a fumble we might have had a chance against Rice. JW could beat a d-1aa team in his sleep.

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Postby ponyboy » Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:22 pm

Ok, for the sake of argument, let's give you Rice. Would Willis have done better than Mitchell did against Texas State: 24-of-37 for 370 yards and 5 touchdowns? I'd submit that there were five to seven throws Willis couldn't have made because he doesn't have the same arm strength or accuracy.
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Postby Stallion » Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:26 pm

Justin Willis had a 94.5% completion rate and 5 TDs in a similiar situation against similiar opposition and playing as a freshman. Go look at what the Baylor true Freshman QB and the TCU QB did against similar competition. Not a very good yardstick but the good news is that Mitchell will get every opportunity to prove himself in the next 10 days. Most of these D1AA teams don't have athletes to run with D1A schools-and I know the guy covering especially Robinson was outclassed-or out-Divisioned if you will.
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