For you Longhorn fans

[Stallion]

I think its also interesting how the "conventional wisdom" is that Texas has the top recruiting classes every year so Mack Brown is just a Recruiter not a Coach. While they maybe true with some of the Classes which won the National Championship, is that a fact with regard to recent years. The Rivals Rankings and Average Rankings suggest No. UT's finish from 2004-2008 with Total Point Ranking on Left and Average Ranking on Right:

2004: 10-8
2005: 20-7 (small Class)
2006: 5-9
2007: 5-5
2008: 14-10

[expony18]

how about 1999-2004

[expony18]

i think Mack's best classes were the 2000 -2002 classes

[Stallion]

Yeah I was making the point based upon the Classes that contributed to this year's team. Yes-its amazing how that happens-his National Championship team was composed of recruiting classes ranked at the very Top. The only other years availiable on Rivals:

2002: 1-3
2003: 15-2 (small Class)

[Stallion]

Happens all the time. That's why he gets a Big Check-its the MOST important factor in building a strong football program. Read his Contract-its part of his job responsibilities.

[expony18]

maybe SMU could find some big time donors to pay mack $20 million/year to be our recruiting coordinator?

[Stallion]

Perhaps Pete Carroll is the guy who underachieves-USC's Recruiting Rankings:

2004 1-1
2005 1-1
2006 1-1
2007 2-1
2008 8-2

[Stallion]

Bob Stoops at OU:

2004: 8-2
2005: 3-5
2006: 9-11
2007: 14-11
2008: 6-5

[expony18]

Perhaps Pete Carroll is the guy who underachieves-USC's Recruiting Rankings:

2004 1-1
2005 1-1
2006 1-1
2007 2-1
2008 8-2

BCS record?

[expony18]

Perhaps Pete Carroll is the guy who underachieves-USC's Recruiting Rankings:

2004 1-1
2005 1-1
2006 1-1
2007 2-1
2008 8-2

BCS record?

6-1 since 2002

[Stallion]

Florida Under Zook/Urban Meyer:

2004: 7-7
2005: 15-11(small Class-Zook fired)
2006; 2-2
2007: 1-2
2008: 3-4


See a pattern developing here? The best football programs are built by Coaches who are the best in the business in recruiting-it is an essential part of winning.

[expony18]

Florida Under Zook/Urban Meyer:

2004: 7-7
2005: 15-11(small Class-Zook fired)
2006; 2-2
2007: 1-2
2008: 3-4


See a pattern developing here? The best football programs are built from the best recruiting-it is an essential part of winning.

but urban meyer also put Utah on the map, unlike some of the guys mentioned above I believe he is a true x's and o's guy

[expony18]

do you think bob stoops thanked john blake for the players he inherited (which won his only national championship)



edit: when an OU fan starts rambling about the almighty, just remind them of that fact

[Stallion]

Since LSU won the National Championship in the 2007 Season, I went back to 2003 for them:

2003: 1-3
2004: 2-6
2005: 22-4(very Small but outstanding Class of only 13)
2006: 7-5
2007: 4-3
2008: 11-9

[Stallion]

Mack Brown's BCS Record 3-0