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There is a fourth postseason tournament

Postby George S. Patton » Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:43 pm

http://www.collegesports-fans.com/ncaa- ... ament.html

It's kind of getting like the bowl season.
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Postby bagice » Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:49 pm

These stayed under my radar as well, besides the NCAA and NIT, there is also a CIT and a CBI, whatever those are.

Houston and UTEP are in the CBI, no CUSA teams in the CIT and UAB and Tulsa are in the NIT.

THink a lot of respectable teams refused invites to the CBI and CIT, notable exceptions being St. Johns, Stanford, and Oregon State.

To me, these should be for the smaller schools that never got a chance, and for the most part they are, not sure why St. Johns would risk taking an @ss whooping at the hands of a smaller school.
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Postby George S. Patton » Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:53 pm

Tulsa won the CBI last year. The cool thing about that is when you get to the finals, the teams play a best-of-three format. Tulsa beat Bradley in three games last year. Yes, I'm that much of a college basketball junkie.
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Postby The XtC » Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:54 pm

George S. Patton wrote:http://www.collegesports-fans.com/ncaa-tournament/cit-basketball-tournament.html

It's kind of getting like the bowl season.


kind of is. I wonder if these two new tournies will be able to stay afloat, financially.
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Postby bagice » Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:56 pm

The CBI looks OK, they have mostly big name programs:

2009 CBI Tournament Schedule & Bracket
Tuesday, March 17

Northeastern @ Wyoming - Tues @ 9 pm ET - HDNet
UTEP @ Nevada - Tues @ 11 pm ET
Wednesday, March 18

St. John's @ Richmond - 7 pm ET
Buffalo @ Wichita State - 8 pm ET - HDNet
Vermont @ Wisconsin-Green Bay - 8 pm ET
Charleston @ Troy - 8 pm ET
Houston @ Oregon State - 10 pm ET - HDNet
Boise State @ Stanford - 10 pm ET



The CIT looks really small time, I see Liberty even made it!:

Team preview and profile pages have been posted for all 16 College Insider Tournament teams below. Feel free to review to find out more about each member of the first ever CIT Tournament.

Tuesday, March 17, 2009

Rider (19-12) @ Liberty (22-11) - Tuesday
Kent State (19-14) @ Oakland U. (22-12) - Tuesday
Wednesday, March 18, 2009

The Citadel (20-12) @ Old Dominion (21-10) - Wednesday
Mount St. Mary’s (19-13) @ James Madison (19-14) - Wednesday
Austin Peay (19-13) @ Bradley (18-14) - Wednesday
Belmont (19-12) @ Evansville (17-13) - Wednesday
Portland (19-12) @ Pacific (19-11) - Wednesday
Drake (17-15) @ Idaho (16-15) - Wednesday
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Postby The XtC » Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:04 pm

bagice wrote:
Drake (17-15) @ Idaho (16-15) - Wednesday


Good grief. 146 teams in post season tournies means it eventually comes down to this, 2 teams barely over .500 playing in Idaho.
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Postby CA Mustang » Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:48 pm

bagice wrote:THink a lot of respectable teams refused invites to the CBI and CIT...

Don't know how many, but UALR turned down a bid to the CBI.

The XTC wrote:...kind of is. I wonder if these two new tournies will be able to stay afloat, financially.

According to the article below, CBI charged Stanford $60K for the first round game. If schools can bring in enough revenue to come close covering their costs, the tournaments probably will continue. But if too many schools balk like UALR, the organizers will have to cut their fees to keep them going. http://www.mercurynews.com/sports/ci_11929492
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Postby CalallenStang » Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:49 pm

CA Mustang wrote:
bagice wrote:THink a lot of respectable teams refused invites to the CBI and CIT...

Don't know how many, but UALR turned down a bid to the CBI.

The XTC wrote:...kind of is. I wonder if these two new tournies will be able to stay afloat, financially.

According to the article below, CBI charged Stanford $60K for the first round game. If schools can bring in enough revenue to come close covering their costs, the tournaments probably will continue. But if too many schools balk like UALR, the organizers will have to cut their fees to keep them going. http://www.mercurynews.com/sports/ci_11929492


New Mexico State turned down the CBI for the second year in a row.
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Postby CA Mustang » Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:00 pm

CalallenStang wrote:New Mexico State turned down the CBI for the second year in a row.

I guess the CBI will stop calling them!
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Postby CA Mustang » Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:02 pm

The XtC wrote:...it eventually comes down to this, 2 teams barely over .500 playing in Idaho.

That's not the worst of it. CBI invited a 16-17 St. Johns and a 13-17 OSU.

If a below .500 record is acceptable, when will SMU get a call? :oops:
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Postby smupony94 » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:25 pm

UAB is up early over Notre Dame in the NIT
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Postby Pony_Fan » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:45 pm

and SMU isn't in ANY OF THEM!!
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Postby CalallenStang » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:05 pm

Pony_Fan wrote:and SMU isn't in ANY OF THEM!!


Ideally, the teams that are invited to these tournaments are the teams that win more than 10 games in a season.
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Postby Pony_Fan » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:17 pm

Thanks for the clarification

Just like SMU isn't in a bowl when over 1/2 the teams are invited.
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Postby Charleston Pony » Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:43 am

the CBI wants 60k guarantee for a home game and the CI.com wants 28k

for our sake, let's hope they both survive so we can get in on post season play in the not too distant future
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