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by PonyDoh » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:40 pm
Stallion wrote:This is typical-its the Summer Cheerleading Season!!!!! I hate summer cheerleading season. We've all seen this every year for 20 years where if you post anything but Rah! Rah! Shish Boom Ba! in the Preseason, then you are a traitor. Then in September-those BLOWHARDS that generally add nothing interesting or worth reading other than CHEERS fade into oblivion or call for the firing of the Coach because SMU is underperforming. Truly what's funny is that I haven't seen one post where someone has stepped out of line with outrageously negative material. Nothing comparable to the negativity surrounding Doherty. I've seen posts that SMU recruits have few offers and SMU's opponents have more. THat's a FACT JACK. Insane and 2112 in particular have been too immature to make a rational, logical response. I personally don't think that there have been many seriously derogatory posts about SMU's football program considering they haven't won a conference game in 2 years and only beaten 1 Division 1A team in two years.
This is a great post.
“When I first committed to SMU, I thought it would take a couple of years of building. But with these players coming in, we should make a run. We have a lot of heavy hitters. It could get real ugly for a lot of teams we play.â€- Jalen Jones
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by Insane_Pony_Posse » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:40 pm
Stallion talks about "useless posts", but I wonder StallionsModelT if he remembers making the statement about how "SMU WILL RUE THE DAY NOT HIRING TODD DODGE"
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by Blvd_Stang » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:51 pm
Stallion wrote:I trust most people are interesting in hearing accurate information about the football program as opposed to...and the other thousands of other useless posts you have to wade through just to get some real information about the team. Most of you-and especially among the Cheerleaders haven't posted anything mildly interesting to read since the Eisenhower Administration.
JUNE JONES CAN EVALUATE TALENT THATS FITS INTO HIS SYSTEM!
Scout.com allows us to see Hawaii's commits since 2002...
1999 Hawaiʻi 9–4 5–2 T-1st W Oʻahu
2000 HawaiÊ»i 3–9 2–6 T-6th â€â€
2001 HawaiÊ»i 9–3 5–3 T-4th â€â€
2002 Hawaiʻi 10–4 7–1 2nd L Hawaiʻi: One 4 star, One 3 Star
2003 Hawaiʻi 9–5 5–3 T-4th W Hawaiʻi: Two 3 Stars
2004 Hawaiʻi 8–5 4–4 5th W Hawaiʻi: One 3 Star
2005 Hawaiʻi 5–7 4–4 5th  : Three 3 Stars
2006 Hawaiʻi 11–3 7–1 2nd W Hawaiʻi: One 3 Star
2007 Hawaiʻi 12–1 8–0 1st L Sugar †: Three 4 Stars, Four 3 Stars
Hawaiʻi: 75–41 47–24
TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE SCOUT.COM didn't think too highly of his recruits, but he still recorded a 75-41 record, six bowl wins and a Coach of the Year Award.
http://hawaii.scout.com/a.z?s=219&p=9&c=8&yr=2003
http://smu.scout.com/a.z?s=357&p=9&c=8&yr=2009
To me it looks like he's getting better overall recruits in his first year at SMU then he got during some seasons at Hawaii. He inherited more of a mess than he expected, but he's getting ready to make this team his, whether the recruit has 2 stars or 4
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by kent dorfman » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:54 pm
Stallion wrote:I trust most people are interesting in hearing accurate information about the football program as opposed to
"Great Pick-Up" "Bring on a Herd of Lineman" "Fear June Jone" "Go Ponies" "Wait Until Vic Gets Ahold of Him" "Kick-[deleted] Twitter by Jones" "UT Can Kiss My [deleted]" "June Jones Knows What He is Doing" "There is a New Feeling Among this Team" ( As George Strait would say-the consistent "Famous Last Words of a Fool" each and every year for 20 years.
...and the other thousands of other useless posts you have to wade through just to get some real information about the team. Most of you-and especially among the Cheerleaders haven't posted anything mildly interesting to read since the Eisenhower Administration.
In regards to "Great Pick Up": Maybe a great kid for the university but not for the team's success in C-USA.
"Go Ponies": Easy there. Root for the team, even if they ain't any good.
"UT can kiss my deleted": So what, someone hates UT. That's ok.
"JJ Knows what he is doing": He does. But he has to take what he can get here. Perfectly fine statement with me though.
"New Feeling to the Team": Yeah sure, new people may bring a new feeling, certainly. More wins? Different story.
What's so wrong with self expression? It is a fansite so take it easy. I am also all for getting good, accurate information and that's why I read your posts, Stallion. If you don't like the cheerleaders, then don't read their posts. Stop complaining about it because it's just going to make people hate you. Doesn't do anyone any good.
Or are we just getting antsy?
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by George S. Patton » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:54 pm
jtstang wrote:George S. Patton wrote:When do we start EXPECTING this program to perform better?
If that means expecting wins, then not yet.
I appreciate the quip but it's about time to start since we have been told all of the changes to the program internally and externally are now in place for it to compete.
It better start in 2009.
Here's the bottom line: The future of SMU remaining in Division I athletics will contingent upon the Jones era and how successful it is.
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by Stallion » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:59 pm
See Blvd Fan actually made a rational, logical response
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by Blvd_Stang » Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:01 pm
Stallion wrote:See Blvd Fan actually made a rational, logical response
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by Stallion » Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:22 pm
Don't Push It
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by expony18 » Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:26 pm
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by Blvd_Stang » Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:28 pm
Stallion wrote:Don't Push It
15,520 more posts then I can push it... 
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by jtstang » Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:51 pm
Insane_Pony_Posse wrote:i expect at least 4 wins this season
maybe more if Shawnbrey McNeal plays
Yeah, but just for perspective, how many did you expect last season?
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by Stallion » Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:56 pm
You know the funny thing about Doherty's recruiting-the two recruits (Chris Clarke and Julius Francis) that SMU fans have complained about the most over the last few years and wondering whether they were really Division 1A quality both had their scholarship offers revoked. Ponyfans is 2-0 in correctly questioning Doherty's recruiting of marginal recruits.
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by ponydawg » Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:16 pm
jtstang wrote:Insane_Pony_Posse wrote:i expect at least 4 wins this season
maybe more if Shawnbrey McNeal plays
Yeah, but just for perspective, how many did you expect last season?
Like my wife says to me......"stop living in the past"

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by Insane_Pony_Posse » Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:33 pm
"Yeah, but just for perspective, how many did you expect last season?"
i can't remember but with what coach phil left on the shelves and the mentality coach phil had left with our players i knew it would be a very long season instituting a whole new offense. i say we win a minimum of 4 games this year......but lets get it all down so we can revisit....no waffle.....no "well if and but"......lets put it down fellows.
2009 SMU Football Predictions:
Insane_Pony_Posse: At least 4 Wins
jtstang: ?
Stallion: ?
General Patton: ?
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by MustangIcon » Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:34 pm
Stallion wrote:You know the funny thing about Doherty's recruiting-the two recruits (Chris Clarke and Julius Francis) that SMU fans have complained about the most over the last few years and wondering whether they were really Division 1A quality both had their scholarship offers revoked. Ponyfans is 2-0 in correctly questioning Doherty's recruiting of marginal recruits.
But Francis got offered by and signed with Winthrop, a strong bball program. I would say Myles Luttman has/had more people doubting his legitamacy as a D 1 recruit. And aside from his size, I think it is justified. ALthough I do hope he turns out to be a quality player.
What is Clarke up to these days? He is a kid that was rated really highly as a Soph, then less so as a Junior, then almost not at all as a Senior. Did he end up playing ball anywhere?
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