Thank God June Jones isn't listening!

[Insane_Pony_Posse]

"So you really had no expectations last year. Why does that
sound familiar...?"

Oh I had expectations, I just did not have a prediction.

Different words, different meanings, look it up in a book,
thats what lawyers do....no?

Speaking of words and meanings.....
Why would you continue to spend time, (very little) money,
and emotion on a team you admit causes you "inevitable disappointment"?
Seriously does that make ANY sense?

Stallion I can understand why you are scared to make a June
prediction (no pun intended) because it may come back to bite
you just like some of your other past wrong statements like the
one in the signature line of PerunaPunch.

""Anyone who had followed June Jones, who knew how he built his program and what he thought of SMU's program should have known this was really a silly waste of time. Can we now get on with hiring a Head Coach...?" -- Stallion, December 25, 2007 11:38 pm

[jtstang]

"So you really had no expectations last year. Why does that
sound familiar...?"

Oh I had expectations, I just did not have a prediction.

Different words, different meanings, look it up in a book,
thats what lawyers do....no?

Allow me to use your own words in retort, from this thread no less.

i expect at least 4 wins this season

maybe more if Shawnbrey McNeal plays

Now shall I ask again what your expectation, i.e., prediction was for last year? You said your expectation for this year is 4 wins (minimum), and you said you had expectations last year. Now I rest my case.

And I keep coming back to watch the mustangs year after year because I am a fan, not just a fair weather fan. And I am not disappointed, because I have no expectations.

[Insane_Pony_Posse]

Now shall I ask again what your expectation, i.e., prediction was for last year?

And I will answer again. I expected SMU to starting
moving in the right direction and made no prediction as far as
number of wins because of the new regime and the massive
overhaul they were about to undertake. I knew then as I know today
that we have the right coach, the right staff, the right AD that will
make the right decisions that will make us a winning team within
3 years of when June Jones signed the dotted line.

You said your expectation for this year is 4 wins, and you said you
had expectations last year. Now I rest my case.

I would advise resting before you dig your hole
any deeper......your dots don't connect.

An apple is not an orange no matter how well
they teach you to be able to argue so at law school.

One can have some "expectations to get married" but
not predict it.

I have "expectations" that I will be healthy
but I am not predicting it.

This year like last year I have expectations, this
year unlike last year I am making a prediction.

At least fo!


And I keep coming back to watch the mustangs year after
year because I am a fan, not just a fair weather fan. And I
am not disappointed, because I have no expectations.

That makes no sense.

That would be like if a guy followed a stock, read about it every
single day, spent money gathering info about it, continued buying
the stock year after year after year but then stated it is "inevitable"
that this stock will be a "disappointment".

Either the guy would be lying or he'd be a moron....right?

[jtstang]

And I keep coming back to watch the mustangs year after year because I am a fan, not just a fair weather fan. And I am not disappointed, because I have no expectations.

That makes no sense.

That would be like if a guy followed a stock, read about it every
single day, spent money gathering info about it, continued buying
the stock year after year after year but then stated it is "inevitable"
that this stock will be a "disappointment".

Either the guy would be lying or he'd be a moron....right?

Well again, I'm just a fan who likes to go to games and hang out on the 'vard, but who also in the last few years has given up any expectations of this program because they have not met them in the last 20 years. I used to have them, and I was disappointed, but now I don't and I'm not. You either get that or you don't.

But do tell why you do it expectation man--is it because you're a liar or a moron? Or are you simply not disappointed in the results of the last 20 years?

[Stallion]

So let me get this straight-I'm scared to make a prediction (although I do every single year in the week before the season-last year 3-9 with detailed analysis) and yet you yourself made no prediction whatsoever last year and are calling me out for being scared. Seriously, calm down Herkie Herkimer. Try to make a logical point.

[Insane_Pony_Posse]

jtstang i do it because....well do you have like
8 hours for me to explain?.....lol

i love the David and Goliath storyline

sure winning long ago would have been great

but this is our journey....it is what it is

i refuse to become disillusioned and be a zombie
with no expectations because of past failures

i couldn't spend time, money, and effort
on something that I honestly felt was hopeless
and felt would be an "inevitable disappointment".

i think SMU is at an exciting crossroad

i think June Jones is a great coach and there is no
better coach in america that would be a better fit for smu.

sure other coaches could produce a winner like
June will....but they'd be gone before you could
spell Peruna....with June...he is going to get us
to the winner's circle and he isn't going anywhere.

[Insane_Pony_Posse]

So let me get this straight-I'm scared to make a prediction (although I do every single year in the week before the season-last year 3-9 with detailed analysis) and yet you yourself made no prediction whatsoever last year and are calling me out for being scared. Seriously, calm down Herkie Herkimer. Try to make a logical point.

yes you are scared to make a june prediction so if
all these dire circumstances of how every other school is beating
june jones at the recruiting game don't pan out you can hide.

sure i didn't make a prediction last year because i didn't know
what'd we'd do.....it wasn't because I felt ominous...I just didn't
know what we'd do......but you on the other hand always
seem so sure you know everything and have all the answers.
I don't pretend to know all the answers.....YOU DO!

It's logical to ask a know-it-all what his prediction is...no?

[Stallion]

WAH! Stallion's not making his predictions until the week before the season. Grow up!

[George S. Patton]

1. McNeal isn't eligible yet or may never be eligible.
2. Thereby, the running game is very suspect.
3. Defensive positions in the new 3-4 are not set.
4. Backup QB -- very important in my mind -- is sitting out there.
5. Also, we need more receiver options than Robinson and Sanders. Didn't have too many after them and there are still a lot ?s regarding depth there as well.

Plus I, we're going to find out this season if Bo Levi Mitchell really has the intangibles to be a solid DI quarterback.

Plus II, we're going to find out if this defense can actually stop somebody.

Doesn't look like anything close to a winning season to me. But I hope I'm wrong. Just don't see it.

[couch 'em]

So let me get this straight-I'm scared to make a prediction (although I do every single year in the week before the season-last year 3-9 with detailed analysis) and yet you yourself made no prediction whatsoever last year and are calling me out for being scared. Seriously, calm down Herkie Herkimer. Try to make a logical point.

yes you are scared to make a june prediction so if
all these dire circumstances of how every other school is beating
june jones at the recruiting game don't pan out you can hide.

sure i didn't make a prediction last year because i didn't know
what'd we'd do.....it wasn't because I felt ominous...I just didn't
know what we'd do......but you on the other hand always
seem so sure you know everything and have all the answers.
I don't pretend to know all the answers.....YOU DO!

It's logical to ask a know-it-all what his prediction is...no?

How can you make any kind of reasonable prediction for the season when we've yet to see the incoming players, we don't know who's in what position, etc etc? Making a prediction now is completely worthless.

[The_RichAlum]

Is the words of the ground crew in "Major League"

These guys will still be @#itty.

We were almost dead last in Defense last year (2nd to last in yards/game) and we have done nothing to address the situation. We will have to score evertime to stay competitive, otherwise it will be more of the same.

This program is still a few years away......I would temper the expectations.

[George S. Patton]

So let me get this straight-I'm scared to make a prediction (although I do every single year in the week before the season-last year 3-9 with detailed analysis) and yet you yourself made no prediction whatsoever last year and are calling me out for being scared. Seriously, calm down Herkie Herkimer. Try to make a logical point.

yes you are scared to make a june prediction so if
all these dire circumstances of how every other school is beating
june jones at the recruiting game don't pan out you can hide.

sure i didn't make a prediction last year because i didn't know
what'd we'd do.....it wasn't because I felt ominous...I just didn't
know what we'd do......but you on the other hand always
seem so sure you know everything and have all the answers.
I don't pretend to know all the answers.....YOU DO!

It's logical to ask a know-it-all what his prediction is...no?

Making a prediction now is completely worthless.

I don't know if Dave Campbell's, Street & Smith's, Athlon's or other college football preview magazine news staff would agree since their publications are hitting news stands right about now.

[Insane_Pony_Posse]

How can you make any kind of reasonable prediction for the season when we've yet to see the incoming players, we don't know who's in what position, etc etc? Making a prediction now is completely worthless

And I am sure....you are just as adamant that "any kind
of prediction" on how these June Jones recruits will turn out
and being negative towards the signings when "we've yet to
see the incoming players" is just as worthless?

[LA_Mustang]

4. Backup QB -- very important in my mind -- is sitting out there.

Am I the only one who thinks the starting QB is still a very big question mark?

[PonyKai]

Oh yes, I pine for the early 2000's quarterback play that we enjoyed here at SMU.