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Jim Christian's status at TCU

Postby Mitch McConnell » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:11 am

Horned Frogs are having another tough season in Fort Worth. Last in the MWC at 1-8. I don't know what that means for his future over there coupled with the impending move to the Big East.

This is his third year? I would think that TCU would exercise a little more patience, but I've never had the sense that's this has been a good fit.

Regarding the move to the Big East, I remember how South Florida was talking it up about moving to it and how it was going to make their BB better. I think we've learned that there's a pecking order of teams to go play basketball for in that conference. USF isn't one of them. I can pretty much see where TCU will fall into USF's status.
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Re: Jim Christian's status at TCU

Postby mustangbill67 » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:43 am

Why should I care?
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Re: Jim Christian's status at TCU

Postby mrydel » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:01 am

Kind of appropriate on a Sunday morning to wonder if a man is a good Christian.
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Re: Jim Christian's status at TCU

Postby Mitch McConnell » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:07 am

mustangbill67 wrote:Why should I care?


Bill, I'm troubled by the fact that you would take this position. You always want to keep an eye on your rival. We talked them for threads on end with football. Basketball is hands off because they're struggling?

We may or may not be competing against them for the same kinds of recruits.

Help me understand...

I think it's an interesting point because he had a good career at Kent St., came here with high expectations and it's kind of not been working out.

Based on your response, I would presume you prefer the ostrich approach.
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Postby CalallenStang » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:14 am

I never thought he was a great hire, but I didn't expect him to bomb like this. Can't believe we lost to them. If we played them now, we' d run them off the court.
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Re: Jim Christian's status at TCU

Postby PonyDoh » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:19 am

They just didn't prioritize hoops in the way they could have. Christian coached them up at Kent, but he was never regarded as a premier recruiter. They are relying on JUCO kids, and nationally they're seen more as a supplement, not the main course. Beyond that, evaluation has to be a concern, as they offered Darius Singleton several years ago in the '11 class, and it was a real stretch. Darius ended up at Central Arkansas.

Beyond that, I'm not really paying attention. I hope they burn
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Re: Jim Christian's status at TCU

Postby Hoop Fan » Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:56 pm

good to see them struggling, but the MWC is pretty tough 8 team league right now. BYU, SDSU, UNLV, New Mexico. Utah is the weak sister. How many wins would we have in that league? Not 5. Christian beat USC this year and Texas Tech at Lubbock, besides walloping us. Orsini probably would have given Doh a lifetime contract for doing that.
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Re: Jim Christian's status at TCU

Postby PonyDoh » Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:13 pm

Hoop Fan wrote:good to see them struggling, but the MWC is pretty tough 8 team league right now. BYU, SDSU, UNLV, New Mexico. Utah is the weak sister. How many wins would we have in that league? Not 5. Christian beat USC this year and Texas Tech at Lubbock, besides walloping us. Orsini probably would have given Doh a lifetime contract for doing that.


Tech sucks, as does USC. Both were very early, and we've now beaten teams that good, if not considerably better. UNT beat freakin Tech, and they are punking out in a big way right now. MWC is a good hoops conference, and pretty much always has been(despite not getting the respect it should), but there is nothing in it beyond BYU/SDSU/UNLV. Colorado St is 6-3 which is roughly like us being 5-3 in CUSA, and UNM isn't what they were last year at all.
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Re: Jim Christian's status at TCU

Postby sbsmith » Sun Feb 06, 2011 4:23 pm

Mitch McConnell wrote:Horned Frogs are having another tough season in Fort Worth. Last in the MWC at 1-8. I don't know what that means for his future over there coupled with the impending move to the Big East.

This is his third year? I would think that TCU would exercise a little more patience, but I've never had the sense that's this has been a good fit.

Regarding the move to the Big East, I remember how South Florida was talking it up about moving to it and how it was going to make their BB better. I think we've learned that there's a pecking order of teams to go play basketball for in that conference. USF isn't one of them. I can pretty much see where TCU will fall into USF's status.



True, TCU will recruit better in the Big East because of that conference's reputation but they'll never be able to keep up with the absolutely brutal competition. They'll be a perennial bottom 4 team.
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Re: Jim Christian's status at TCU

Postby RGV Pony » Sun Feb 06, 2011 4:25 pm

Good job big east.
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Re: Jim Christian's status at TCU

Postby RednBlue11 » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:12 am

depaul will finally win a BE game...and win by 30
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Re: Jim Christian's status at TCU

Postby EastStang » Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:59 am

TCU will join South Florida near the bottom of the BE in basketball.
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Jim Christian's status at TCU

Postby Mustangsabu » Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:23 pm

I can't believe how far our team has come since we went to fort worth and got ridden a red-headed stepchild's slutty little sister. I have not seen them play since but I'd like to think we would beat them fairly handily right now.
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Re: Jim Christian's status at TCU

Postby PoconoPony » Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:17 pm

I get a steady diet of Big East basketball virtually every night of the week. This is a very tough and well balanced league. Even the teams at the bottom of the conference standings are very talented and can beat any other team in the conference on a given night. TCU falls woefully short of even being comptitive in this league. TCU will need a huge influx in talent to get beyond the door mat status in basketball. My personal opinion is that TCU made a huge mistake in joining the BE. It may work out in football; however, a disaster for all other sports where there is no commonality of geography, rivalries and to a lesser extent the participation/availability of minor sports other than baseball where the BE is traditionally strong.
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Re: Jim Christian's status at TCU

Postby papawasamustang » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:10 pm

Losing both Yeager & Moss was huge. Not too many teams in the country could lose their best two players & still be able to compete on a high level. It would be like SMU losing both Dia & RN.
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