How much they payin' Sumlin?

mr. pony · Post by **mr. pony** » Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:03 pm

He's in Year Four too.

smupony94 · Post by **smupony94** » Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:06 pm

Not enough

GiddyUp · Post by **GiddyUp** » Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:10 pm

he should bolt after this year. in all fairness, June had nothing when he started.

NomAnor · Post by **NomAnor** » Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:12 pm

GiddyUp wrote:he should bolt after this year. in all fairness, June had nothing when he started.

worse than nothing had 25 years of black cloud over the program

mr. pony · Post by **mr. pony** » Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:15 pm

GiddyUp wrote:he should bolt after this year. in all fairness, June had nothing when he started.

That's crap. I'm not buying it.
SMU's a great job.

leopold · Post by **leopold** » Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:29 pm

Sumlin is bolting after this year - many people think the Tulane game was a on-air interview for Ole Miss. He's got to, too: next year Houston loses almost all of its offense and they come down to earth. Keep in mind, the 7 starters he's got on offense he didn't even recruit, especially not Keenan.

mr. pony wrote:That's crap. I'm not buying it.
SMU's a great job.

Only if your an alum.

SMU 86 · Post by **SMU 86** » Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:31 pm

GiddyUp wrote:he should bolt after this year. in all fairness, June had nothing when he started.

He's not bolting because UH is headed to a BCS conference. We have been saying that about him and Patterson for years.

ponyscott · Post by **ponyscott** » Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:31 pm

He still got them to play as a team with swagger...on BOTH sides of the ball, whatever and who ever he had. Its about leadership at the top.

SMU 86 · Post by **SMU 86** » Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:34 pm

mr. pony wrote:
GiddyUp wrote:he should bolt after this year. in all fairness, June had nothing when he started.

That's crap. I'm not buying it.
SMU's a great job.

He said that June had nothing (meaning no talent at SMU) when he started and he is right.

Hoop Fan · Post by **Hoop Fan** » Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:39 pm

[quote="GiddyUp"]he should bolt after this year. in all fairness, June had nothing when he started.[/quote

he inherited a better QB, who he move to WR, than he has now. irony.

SMU 86 · Post by **SMU 86** » Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:48 pm

mr. pony wrote:
GiddyUp wrote:he should bolt after this year. in all fairness, June had nothing when he started.

That's crap. I'm not buying it.
SMU's a great job.

Also, with all the recruiting barriers (of the past) and perceptions SMU is good job not a great job.

huskerpony · Post by **huskerpony** » Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:53 pm

SMU 86 wrote:
GiddyUp wrote:he should bolt after this year. in all fairness, June had nothing when he started.

He's not bolting because UH is headed to a BCS conference. We have been saying that about him and Patterson for years.

Patterson is getting paid though. Can UH match the salary offer he will get elsewhere?

If he gets a $1-2 mil per year raise by leaving--which even if it turns into a complete failure, is basically guaranteed for 3+ years including a buyout--that is pretty tough to turn down. Unless he only gets offered an impossible situation and thinks he could do better later, he will be gone. That's a big gamble when you are losing so many players and moving to a much more difficult conference. Might not ever get that offer again if UH turns south.

shadowman · Post by **shadowman** » Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:00 pm

ponyscott wrote:He still got them to play as a team with swagger...on BOTH sides of the ball, whatever and who ever he had. Its about leadership at the top.

SMU defense has swagger, but this offense is pathetic, there is no swagger, no fire, no sense of urgency, we stand over the ball for 9/10's of the play clock while June decides what play to run without even looking at the defense.

Houston shows how to do the run and shoot. June may have invented it, but he is too arogant to tweak it an make it better, like everyone else has.

Calling the plays from the sideline with no clue of what the defense is doing is just silly. No one, and I mean no one, runs this offense, because it is not effective. It has many good points, but they were never developed after decent teams saw how to stop it in the mid nineties.

SMU 86 · Post by **SMU 86** » Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:03 pm

Huskerpony, since UH is now going to a BCS conference they will have the money to match.

leopold · Post by **leopold** » Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:08 pm

I don't know if Sumlin will leave or not - UH has a HUGE upside for a coach - but I'm telling you now that it is next year that we will find out if Sumlin can coach. He's won with someone elses talent until now - a guy who has shown at Baylor he can recruit and coach - and he will be hard, hard pressed to do it again. So next year, if he stays, we will see if hes a Chris Peterson or a Houston Nutt.