Leaders have to come out from behind the glass

NickSMU17 · Post by **NickSMU17** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:34 pm

You on young alumni board of trustees?

Must be nice...I like my points, but will have to think about it...

2ndandlong · Post by **2ndandlong** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:36 pm

Hoop Fan wrote:. We already have strong clues that the UCF lack of crowd had a direct impact on the outcome of the season, all indications are that the team was very dissappointed with that coming off of big TCU win.

what? We lost at So. Miss, Houston, and Tulsa because of home attendance?
Don't buy it.

I agree it was deflating. I might buy it if we lost UCF at home but otherwise this is ridiculous.

2ndandlong · Post by **2ndandlong** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:37 pm

NickSMU17 wrote:You on young alumni board of trustees?

Must be nice...I like my points, but will have to think about it...

I'm on Mustang Club Board and Cox Alumni Board.

NickSMU17 · Post by **NickSMU17** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:40 pm

Nice...

I need to get on some boards...

Fooball · Post by **Fooball** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:42 pm

It's the 1% again, messing things up. Last time the economy, this time SMU Football.

What are we going to do about it? Maybe we should Occupy the stadium club.

Hoop Fan · Post by **Hoop Fan** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:44 pm

2ndandlong wrote:
Hoop Fan wrote:. We already have strong clues that the UCF lack of crowd had a direct impact on the outcome of the season, all indications are that the team was very dissappointed with that coming off of big TCU win.

what? We lost at So. Miss, Houston, and Tulsa because of home attendance?
Don't buy it.

I agree it was deflating. I might buy it if we lost UCF at home but otherwise this is ridiculous.

Debunk it all you want, you've heard and read the same things i have I'm sure. As for winning the UCF game, yeah we did, but I would suggest a couple things about that. First of all, UCF stunk and subsequently looked really bad the rest of the season. Secondly, our team was probably properly motivated and 'ready to play' when they came out for the UCF kickoff which carried us through, despite the flat crowd atmosphere which became a post-game topic.

NickSMU17 · Post by **NickSMU17** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:47 pm

garbage....if thats the case please tell the coaches to leave...

You have to be able to motivate...us against the world, whatever it is, crowd attendance cant determine outcomes...

Hoop Fan · Post by **Hoop Fan** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:48 pm

Fooball wrote:It's the 1% again, messing things up. Last time the economy, this time SMU Football.

What are we going to do about it? Maybe we should Occupy the stadium club.

haha, good one. Thing is if we had 100,000 fans and were really talking 1%, it wouldn't be an issue, problem is we are talking about more like 10-15% of SMU's existing core fanbase.

2ndandlong · Post by **2ndandlong** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:48 pm

NickSMU17 wrote:Nice...

I need to get on some boards...

if you're really interested, PM me. They are occasionally looking for people to be involved remotely and help build the brand on a national scale.

Hoop Fan · Post by **Hoop Fan** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:49 pm

NickSMU17 wrote:garbage....if thats the case please tell the coaches to leave...

You have to be able to motivate...us against the world, whatever it is, crowd attendance cant determine outcomes...

partly agree and i was aggravated by the walk-on's letter to the daily crampus myself, but the truth is somewhere in between.

2ndandlong · Post by **2ndandlong** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:51 pm

Hoop Fan wrote:
2ndandlong wrote:
Hoop Fan wrote:. We already have strong clues that the UCF lack of crowd had a direct impact on the outcome of the season, all indications are that the team was very dissappointed with that coming off of big TCU win.

what? We lost at So. Miss, Houston, and Tulsa because of home attendance?
Don't buy it.

I agree it was deflating. I might buy it if we lost UCF at home but otherwise this is ridiculous.

Debunk it all you want, you've heard and read the same things i have I'm sure. As for winning the UCF game, yeah we did, but I would suggest a couple things about that. First of all, UCF stunk and subsequently looked really bad the rest of the season. Secondly, our team was probably properly motivated and 'ready to play' when they came out for the UCF kickoff which carried us through, despite the flat crowd atmosphere which became a post-game topic.

that is specious reasoning. Are we winning more games now than 10 years ago because attendance is up? Or better coaching and recruiting?

NickSMU17 · Post by **NickSMU17** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:56 pm

2ndandlong wrote:
NickSMU17 wrote:Nice...

I need to get on some boards...

if you're really interested, PM me. They are occasionally looking for people to be involved remotely and help build the brand on a national scale.

Im chicago rep for nation mustang club... wish i had more time to get involved with cox...

smupony94 · Post by **smupony94** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:02 pm

From what I have been told, the Austin rep is the best. Chicago is a distant second

NickSMU17 · Post by **NickSMU17** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:06 pm

hahahah...red devil and i succesfully moved illinois chapter to #2 in number of members this year...

Hoop Fan · Post by **Hoop Fan** » Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:08 pm

well, i don't think attendance is up very much and i'm not sure we are very improved yet. Tulane is a shadow of what it was 10 years ago (probably Katrina has hurt them) and Rice is down as well. If Tulane and Rice were as competent now as they were 5-10 years ago, we might very well be 5-7 right now. Take away the 12th game and the chance to schedule NW State, and we might be 4-7 if we are brutally honest with ourselves.

Back to your premise of attendance being up though, fine even if it is up nominally, we still don't have the minimum critical mass of people we need in the stands game in and game out to sustain a successful program for long and thats a problem no matter how you see it or rationalize it from the boxes.