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Spencer Hollie? / Zelt Minor?

Postby ojaipony » Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:31 am

Given the muscle we'll be facing next week, what's up with this guys? We need all the beef we can get but I haven't heard a peep about these guys. Anyone have any feedback?

Also, just shocked we aren't aggressively pursuing at least one solid NT in this 2014 class. This staff has completely checked out in the recruiting department (only Mumme with Harris) . . .
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Re: Spencer Hollie? / Zelt Minor?

Postby JasonB » Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:59 am

They are doing everything they can to try and redshirt them. Really good players though.
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Re: Spencer Hollie? / Zelt Minor?

Postby dirtysouthpony » Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:21 pm

This would really be wasting redshirts if we played them. Our d line had at least 4 sacks again against what looks like a quality Texas Tech team. We never get sacks from the nose. They have to occupy blockers. I don't think Pitt had a single sack last season, but he was effective. Hollie is big and strong, but he is still an 18 year old. So is Minor. An 18 year lineman would get worked by a 23 year old offensive lineman. A five star guy might be able to survive in that scenario. A healthy program tries to redshirt all d linemen.
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Re: Spencer Hollie? / Zelt Minor?

Postby Ponymon » Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:39 pm

Jones will find a way to waste their redshirts. He has a good history of doing so so don't be surprised when it happens!
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Re: Spencer Hollie? / Zelt Minor?

Postby Mustangsabu » Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:48 pm

June will only burn the redshirt on those guys if he absolutely has to. Of course people will castigate him if that happens but I don't expect it to unless it becomes clear we are significantly better if we use them.
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Re: Spencer Hollie? / Zelt Minor?

Postby SMU 86 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:57 pm

I have have seen June burn redshirts on certain kids that I kind of questioned. Hopefully we can redshirt them.
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Re: Spencer Hollie? / Zelt Minor?

Postby Junior » Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:09 pm

I'm all for redshirting, but if they are better than the current rotation, they should be out there.
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Re: Spencer Hollie? / Zelt Minor?

Postby Lebanese4Life » Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:37 pm

What the hell is June doing preserving redshirts? We all know he's not here for the long-term
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Re: Spencer Hollie? / Zelt Minor?

Postby ojaipony » Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:00 pm

Junior wrote:I'm all for redshirting, but if they are better than the current rotation, they should be out there.


Exactly. Hard to believe that we leave Wright in the whole game . . . we should be rotating 2-3 deep across the Dline constantly . . . I don't even know who we have beyond Wright, Nabushosi, and Cameron Smith (all 3 of whom I like and all 3 of whom are undersized for interior linemen . . . Nabushosi and Smith should start at DE spots IMHO . . . Wood is a solid backup and Barnes is I don't know . . .) . . .
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Re: Spencer Hollie? / Zelt Minor?

Postby ponyboy » Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:31 pm

Beat him up for doing the wrong thing, beat him up for doing the right thing
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Re: Spencer Hollie? / Zelt Minor?

Postby SMU 86 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:38 pm

ojaipony wrote:
Junior wrote:I'm all for redshirting, but if they are better than the current rotation, they should be out there.


Exactly. Hard to believe that we leave Wright in the whole game . . . we should be rotating 2-3 deep across the Dline constantly . . . I don't even know who we have beyond Wright, Nabushosi, and Cameron Smith (all 3 of whom I like and all 3 of whom are undersized for interior linemen . . . Nabushosi and Smith should start at DE spots IMHO . . . Wood is a solid backup and Barnes is I don't know . . .) . . .



Nick Reed is the NT backup or was suppose to be.
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Re: Spencer Hollie? / Zelt Minor?

Postby Grant Carter » Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:59 pm

ponyboy wrote:Beat him up for doing the wrong thing, beat him up for doing the right thing

That is life as a coach unfortunately.


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Re: Spencer Hollie? / Zelt Minor?

Postby dirtysouthpony » Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:20 pm

I think the perception of this problem is worse than the reality. We had 4 sacks against what is now a top 25 Texas Tech team in our first game. Wright and McClennaghan have been ok in the middle. We are also developing a good rotation with Zach, Beau, Naboushi, and Cameron Smith. We probably do need to go 3 deep on the line. Hopefully Rambo comes back for A&M. I don't think Minor or Hollie will improve on the production that we are already getting.

Do we have anyone who can keep contain on Manziel? That is the bigger question?
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Re: Spencer Hollie? / Zelt Minor?

Postby PerunaPunch » Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:03 am

SMU 86 wrote:I have have seen June burn redshirts on certain kids that I kind of questioned. Hopefully we can redshirt them.

In a video interview on PonyFans at the start of this season, I found it interesting that June specifically commented about how he regretted the need to "burn" Taylor and JaGared's redshirts. So while I think he'll still do it if the need arises, I think he's probably more sensitive to it now than what he once was.
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Re: Spencer Hollie? / Zelt Minor?

Postby East Coast Mustang » Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:06 am

As for recruiting an NT in this class, if both Hollie and Minor RS this year we should be ok. Hollie is 6-4 315 and prototypical size for a NT. I also remember Mason saying after signing day that they hoped to get Minor up around 300lbs, giving him the flexibility to play either the end position or at nose.
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