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Re: June loses a recruit

Postby Rebel10 » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:28 pm

And by the way, signing day is a long way off. Recruiting should not be over with this kid. We should still be on him.
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Re: June loses a recruit

Postby East Coast Mustang » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:33 pm

He's an early enrollee, I believe
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Re: June loses a recruit

Postby mrydel » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:35 pm

The WDNWHA Committee very seldom will reverse a decision.
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Re: June loses a recruit

Postby sbsmith » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:41 pm

Rebel10 wrote:And by the way, signing day is a long way off. Recruiting should not be over with this kid. We should still be on him.



Wouldn't be surprised to see some P5 teams jump in on him, he could flip again.
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Re: June loses a recruit

Postby Rebel10 » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:47 pm

East Coast Mustang wrote:He's an early enrollee, I believe



He hasn't enrolled yet or signed so we still should be on him.
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Re: June loses a recruit

Postby Topper » Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:19 pm

CoxMustangFan wrote:I'm sorry CK, you're right. I was thinking this whole college "scam" was about getting a college education. How dare you want a top education that you can use for 40 years of your life when you can have 40,000 7-11 workers screaming for you while on lunch break. I agree, not a tough choice.


If kids were picking schools based on the quality of the education offered we would out recruit Oklahoma State, TCU, Baylor, Texas Tech........
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Re: June loses a recruit

Postby Stallion » Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:33 pm

obviously the answer is that for most top recruits Education is pretty far down the list of things they are looking for-but quite frankly for a good 60% of these kids the less rigorous schools are probably a step up from a school they could get into on their own academic merit.
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Re: June loses a recruit

Postby Charleston Pony » Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:11 pm

not sure why this would surprise anyone. a lot could happen as the rest of this season plays out and we find out whether this coaching staff will even be back next year. And I don't get the UCF bashing. An up and coming school and with it being one of the largest in the country enrollment wise, there are plenty of connections to be made if that's what any recruit cares about. Somehow, I don't think that is high on a high caliber athlete's list
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Re: June loses a recruit

Postby ponyinNC » Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:26 am

UCF looks and feels like a P5 school - full stadium, rowdy fans, etc. They've been featured on ESPN inside access a lot too.

I think along with Cincy and BYU, they are the next school to get a call up to the big leagues.
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Re: June loses a recruit

Postby Grant Carter » Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:06 am

CoxMustangFan wrote:
Grant Carter wrote:
CoxMustangFan wrote:I'm sorry CK, you're right. I was thinking this whole college "scam" was about getting a college education. How dare you want a top education that you can use for 40 years of your life when you can have 40,000 7-11 workers screaming for you while on lunch break. I agree, not a tough choice.

The board is about sports not education. I have yet to see a thread about an unathletic national merit scholar committing to any school.


I think you argue just to argue some times.

I just thought you were better than the tired 7-11 cliche.
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Re: June loses a recruit

Postby sbsmith » Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:36 am

ponyinNC wrote:UCF looks and feels like a P5 school - full stadium, rowdy fans, etc. They've been featured on ESPN inside access a lot too.

I think along with Cincy and BYU, they are the next school to get a call up to the big leagues.




Those schools don't have anywhere to go whether they look P5 or not. There's simply not enough value in adding them.
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Re: June loses a recruit

Postby ponyinNC » Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:41 am

Good pickup for UCF - I really hate to lose him.

That being said, most of his SEC offers were no longer committable (specifically, Bama http://bleacherreport.com/articles/16498...-it-drafts; Kentucky http://www.aseaofblue.com/2013/4/5/41759...offer-mean and MSU)

Obviously, UCF is closer to home and is having the best season in their history, all motivating factors. We also have 2 QB commits already from Texas - Harris was offered by Hal Mumme after those 2 commits, which was also a strange situation.

Bottom line - Both schools will be fine. We take Darrell Colbert, UCF gets Harris.
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Re: June loses a recruit

Postby SMUer » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:06 pm

Let's be honest. SMU and UCF look like programs on entirely different trajectories. Hard to fault him. Also, someone was telling me that there was a connection between this kid's dad and Mumme...maybe there is a bit of uncertainty in next year's staff and the Harris' were tipped off? Heresay, but there it is anyway...
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Re: June loses a recruit

Postby sbsmith » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:20 pm

SMUer wrote:Let's be honest. SMU and UCF look like programs on entirely different trajectories. Hard to fault him.



True, at this point we're a team with an unmotivated lame duck HC and patchwork o-line, UCF is basically the opposite. UCF is a better pick for his football future.
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Re: June loses a recruit

Postby PSCA » Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:33 pm

I’m not completely surprised with this. I was not 100% convinced that he was 100% convinced. It may have something to do with location to his home … and yes UCF (except two seasons ago), has been a program on the rise for the last few years. I think the potential uncertainty of our coaching situation next season may be the bigger reason. If a change does occur, and it happens before the Feb deadline … and if the new regime is interested in him and reaches back out … he can be flipped again.

SMU’s record of getting guys into the NFL, or at least the chance of getting into a camp speaks for itself the last 5 years. Pardon and BL aside, this has not happened yet for a QB … but GG will change that (God willing his injury is not too serious). If this kid has/had the goods he would shine in the SMU scheme (not knowing what the future holds), and then it comes down to his measurable and smarts.

As was already alluded to, most top recruits all think they will make it to the next level. So, education to them is … “Hey I’m in college”, not “what college am I attending”, from an academics point of view in most cases.
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