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Postby feelthehorsepower » Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:59 pm

sbsmith wrote:
feelthehorsepower wrote:2014 is the year we have to make an impression. If Mason manages to get our defense up to 2011-2012 levels, as well as get Burcham up to speed, and Prescott playing like Zach...we might have a chance at making things happen.

TCU taught us that Baylor is beatable. Run the clock and keep em off the field. (will be tough with our offensive style)
Texas A&M will be tough but winnable (assuming Manziel leaves for the draft this year)
TCU is winnable (new QB, offense sucks and looks like it won't get better)

If we lose those 3 games...we can still win the other 9.

It will be just like CUSA.


Where's the talent to win 9 games going to come from? Bear in mind that we never won 9 games back in C-USA.


Most of our good players these last few years were 2-3 star kids. I'm not worried about talent...

SMU's losses have some things in common.

1) Penalties:
vs TTU 9-94yds
vs Texas A&M 13-114yds
vs. TCU 6-41yds
vs. Rutgers 5-50yds
vs. Cincy 8-78yds
vs. Houston 10-90yds

2) Horrible special teams performance
3) Defense giving up big plays
4) Turning the ball over (dropping balls while running, fumbling, interceptions)

The key to all of this is discipline. If next year our team comes to the field well drilled and disciplined...I can see us winning 8 games at least.
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Re: 2 year extension with no buyout after 1 year/ salary red

Postby ponyinNC » Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:01 pm

doesn't discipline come from the Coaching Staff? Isn't discipline taught during practice?

I could go on and on...but I don't blame the players for illegal substitution calls...
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Re: 2 year extension with no buyout after 1 year/ salary red

Postby SMUer » Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:19 pm

Where is this information coming from? It is making me feel sick...
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Re: 2 year extension with no buyout after 1 year/ salary red

Postby PonySnob » Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:38 pm

blackoutpony wrote:I thought this was actually true for a second based on the thread title and it ruined my day.

If this is what's coming, well, yeah, it's going to be really bad year for us


And probably several years after that given that recruiting is terrible this year and probably non-existent next year............
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Re: 2 year extension with no buyout after 1 year/ salary red

Postby blackoutpony » Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:39 pm

feelthehorsepower wrote:
Most of our good players these last few years were 2-3 star kids. I'm not worried about talent...

SMU's losses have some things in common.

1) Penalties:
vs TTU 9-94yds
vs Texas A&M 13-114yds
vs. TCU 6-41yds
vs. Rutgers 5-50yds
vs. Cincy 8-78yds
vs. Houston 10-90yds

2) Horrible special teams performance
3) Defense giving up big plays
4) Turning the ball over (dropping balls while running, fumbling, interceptions)

The key to all of this is discipline. If next year our team comes to the field well drilled and disciplined...I can see us winning 8 games at least.


You continue to prove that you know absolutely nothing about football. The reason all these things happen is because there is so little talent. How are you not worried about talent? It's literally the number 1 thing we [deleted] about on ponyfans. Players with talent don't consistently have the problems of "dropping balls while running, fumbling, interceptions".

Sorry guys, I know I shouldn't have, but I fed the troll...... :(
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Re: 2 year extension with no buyout after 1 year/ salary red

Postby sbsmith » Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:40 pm

feelthehorsepower wrote:Most of our good players these last few years were 2-3 star kids. I'm not worried about talent...

SMU's losses have some things in common.

1) Penalties:
vs TTU 9-94yds
vs Texas A&M 13-114yds
vs. TCU 6-41yds
vs. Rutgers 5-50yds
vs. Cincy 8-78yds
vs. Houston 10-90yds

2) Horrible special teams performance
3) Defense giving up big plays
4) Turning the ball over (dropping balls while running, fumbling, interceptions)

The key to all of this is discipline. If next year our team comes to the field well drilled and disciplined...I can see us winning 8 games at least.



And how many championships, Top 25 rankings, P5 victories, and victories over winning teams do we have to show for all that 2-3 star talent we've had?
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Re: 2 year extension with no buyout after 1 year/ salary red

Postby texasmustang10 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:45 pm

There's no way JJ comes back. This is Rick Hart's first chance to get a big money D-1 coach in basketball/football. He's going shopping.
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Re: 2 year extension with no buyout after 1 year/ salary red

Postby East Coast Mustang » Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:24 pm

texasmustang10 wrote:There's no way JJ comes back. This is Rick Hart's first chance to get a big money D-1 coach in basketball/football. He's going shopping.

You wanna make a wager on that?
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Re: 2 year extension with no buyout after 1 year/ salary red

Postby feelthehorsepower » Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:51 pm

blackoutpony wrote:
feelthehorsepower wrote:
Most of our good players these last few years were 2-3 star kids. I'm not worried about talent...

SMU's losses have some things in common.

1) Penalties:
vs TTU 9-94yds
vs Texas A&M 13-114yds
vs. TCU 6-41yds
vs. Rutgers 5-50yds
vs. Cincy 8-78yds
vs. Houston 10-90yds

2) Horrible special teams performance
3) Defense giving up big plays
4) Turning the ball over (dropping balls while running, fumbling, interceptions)

The key to all of this is discipline. If next year our team comes to the field well drilled and disciplined...I can see us winning 8 games at least.


You continue to prove that you know absolutely nothing about football. The reason all these things happen is because there is so little talent. How are you not worried about talent? It's literally the number 1 thing we [deleted] about on ponyfans. Players with talent don't consistently have the problems of "dropping balls while running, fumbling, interceptions".

Sorry guys, I know I shouldn't have, but I fed the troll...... :(


By talent I meant 4-5 star kids.

When I said "I'm not worried about talent" I meant that our problem isn't our players that we have right now...it's discipline which of course comes from coaching/staff.

I should have written "I'm not worried about our talent"
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Re: 2 year extension with no buyout after 1 year/ salary red

Postby feelthehorsepower » Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:51 pm

sbsmith wrote:
feelthehorsepower wrote:Most of our good players these last few years were 2-3 star kids. I'm not worried about talent...

SMU's losses have some things in common.

1) Penalties:
vs TTU 9-94yds
vs Texas A&M 13-114yds
vs. TCU 6-41yds
vs. Rutgers 5-50yds
vs. Cincy 8-78yds
vs. Houston 10-90yds

2) Horrible special teams performance
3) Defense giving up big plays
4) Turning the ball over (dropping balls while running, fumbling, interceptions)

The key to all of this is discipline. If next year our team comes to the field well drilled and disciplined...I can see us winning 8 games at least.



And how many championships, Top 25 rankings, P5 victories, and victories over winning teams do we have to show for all that 2-3 star talent we've had?


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Re: 2 year extension with no buyout after 1 year/ salary red

Postby blackoutpony » Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:58 pm

feelthehorsepower wrote:
blackoutpony wrote:
feelthehorsepower wrote:
Most of our good players these last few years were 2-3 star kids. I'm not worried about talent...

SMU's losses have some things in common.

1) Penalties:
vs TTU 9-94yds
vs Texas A&M 13-114yds
vs. TCU 6-41yds
vs. Rutgers 5-50yds
vs. Cincy 8-78yds
vs. Houston 10-90yds

2) Horrible special teams performance
3) Defense giving up big plays
4) Turning the ball over (dropping balls while running, fumbling, interceptions)

The key to all of this is discipline. If next year our team comes to the field well drilled and disciplined...I can see us winning 8 games at least.


You continue to prove that you know absolutely nothing about football. The reason all these things happen is because there is so little talent. How are you not worried about talent? It's literally the number 1 thing we [deleted] about on ponyfans. Players with talent don't consistently have the problems of "dropping balls while running, fumbling, interceptions".

Sorry guys, I know I shouldn't have, but I fed the troll...... :(


By talent I meant 4-5 star kids.

When I said "I'm not worried about talent" I meant that our problem isn't our players that we have right now...it's discipline which of course comes from coaching/staff.

I should have written "I'm not worried about our talent"


What? I not even sure what that second sentence means, but you should be extraordinarily worried about our lack of talent. It's going to be crippling.
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Re: 2 year extension with no buyout after 1 year/ salary red

Postby East Coast Mustang » Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:02 pm

Just stop responding to him, and maybe he'll go away.
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Re: 2 year extension with no buyout after 1 year/ salary red

Postby blackoutpony » Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:06 pm

East Coast Mustang wrote:Just stop responding to him, and maybe he'll go away.


I shouldn't have, I know better..... :(
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Re: 2 year extension with no buyout after 1 year/ salary red

Postby PonyKris89 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:38 pm

Good thread PonyinNC.

I've been worried lately that it might play out the way you laid it out.
If it does play out this way, I am very worried about next years recruiting .
The waiting for a clear direction is excruciating.
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Re: 2 year extension with no buyout after 1 year/ salary red

Postby coloradoStang » Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:44 pm

PonyKris89 wrote:Good thread PonyinNC.

I've been worried lately that it might play out the way you laid it out.
If it does play out this way, I am very worried about next years recruiting .
The waiting for a clear direction is excruciating.


I'm worried because recruiting is bad now, itll get worse if this is how it plays out...and then a new coach takes a while to really take effect. Its going to take larry brown hopefully around 5 years to make us nationally relevant and he's a HOF coach. Football takes a lot longer because one or two good recruits dont make a huge diffrence. so we are looking at 10 years until a new coach can really have a big time effect. Thats too long, we will be left behind
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