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Re: No Coaching Change at SMU per USA Today / Dan Wolken

Postby leopold » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:26 pm

sbsmith wrote:
ponyboy wrote:It's not JJ's system that's being exposed. It's the enormous talent gap between the P5 and the rest. See what's happened to TCU as evidence.



Wasn't his system billed as an equalizer?



And it is one. But all the X's and O's in the world isn't going to count if you can't block and tackle. (See UGA whipping Hawaii).
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Re: No Coaching Change at SMU per USA Today / Dan Wolken

Postby PonyKai » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:27 pm

ponyboy wrote:Yes. June Jones kills babies.


So, he's like our Plan B then?

Sorry, couldn't help myself.
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Re: No Coaching Change at SMU per USA Today / Dan Wolken

Postby mr. pony » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:30 pm

ponyboy wrote:It's not JJ's system that's being exposed. It's the enormous talent gap between the P5 and the rest. See what's happened to TCU as evidence.


Yeah? So why hasn't a P5 conference team ever hired JJ?
(TCU was winning waaaaay before it go into the Big 12.)
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Re: No Coaching Change at SMU per USA Today / Dan Wolken

Postby ponyboy » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:35 pm

Probably because he was busy being an NFL coach at the time.
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Re: No Coaching Change at SMU per USA Today / Dan Wolken

Postby blackoutpony » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:38 pm

ponyboy wrote:Probably because he was busy being an NFL coach at the time.


Um, He's been back in college for over 15 years. What are you talking about?
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Re: No Coaching Change at SMU per USA Today / Dan Wolken

Postby SMU 86 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:38 pm

ponyboy wrote:Probably because he was busy being an NFL coach at the time.


I think Coach Jones was at Hawaii.
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Re: No Coaching Change at SMU per USA Today / Dan Wolken

Postby sbsmith » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:39 pm

leopold wrote:
And it is one. But all the X's and O's in the world isn't going to count if you can't block and tackle. (See UGA whipping Hawaii).




Poor blocking and tackling are signs of poor development.
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Re: No Coaching Change at SMU per USA Today / Dan Wolken

Postby feelthehorsepower » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:41 pm

sbsmith wrote:
leopold wrote:
And it is one. But all the X's and O's in the world isn't going to count if you can't block and tackle. (See UGA whipping Hawaii).




Poor blocking and tackling are signs of poor development.




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Re: No Coaching Change at SMU per USA Today / Dan Wolken

Postby ponyboy » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:42 pm

blackoutpony wrote:
ponyboy wrote:Probably because he was busy being an NFL coach at the time.


Um, He's been back in college for over 15 years. What are you talking about?


I was asked why JJ was never offered a head coach position at a P5 school and I was simply pointing out that he's already been a head coach at a higher level than any P5 school.

I'm tired of bickering. You hate lemmings are wearing me out. You win. JJ is the devil.
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Re: No Coaching Change at SMU per USA Today / Dan Wolken

Postby redpony » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:43 pm

And poor develpment is usually a sign of poor coaching.
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Re: No Coaching Change at SMU per USA Today / Dan Wolken

Postby LHS81 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:43 pm

Not gonna worry about it anymore. . . One more year, than something from the SMU administration better {deleted}ing happen. . . Until spring & summer roll around, I'm giving my full support to Larry Brown & the SMU basketball team
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Re: No Coaching Change at SMU per USA Today / Dan Wolken

Postby Mountain Mustang » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:53 pm

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RepublicanPNY wrote:This doesn't surprise me. I didn't expect June to walk away from $2M and I didn't expect SMU to pay him $2M to leave. It sux but what can you do.


what i can do personally is find another team to root for - a team that actually values having a winning football program.

i can express my displeasure by not taking a trip to Dallas for a game, which I usually do. i can just let it go and i will probably be a much happier person. :)


So you were willing to suffer through 20 years of crap, perennial rankings in the bottom 10, and only an aspiration to be mediocre, and now you're jumping ship? You'd be willing to stop supporting our program because June Jones has pissed you off/hasn't recruited the way you see fit/doesn't coach the way you like? By that logic you'd prefer the past 20 years of being god awful over our worst season in half a decade being 5-7. Pretty logical.
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Re: No Coaching Change at SMU per USA Today / Dan Wolken

Postby Rebel10 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:09 pm

Mountain Mustang wrote:
ponyinNC wrote:
RepublicanPNY wrote:This doesn't surprise me. I didn't expect June to walk away from $2M and I didn't expect SMU to pay him $2M to leave. It sux but what can you do.


what i can do personally is find another team to root for - a team that actually values having a winning football program.

i can express my displeasure by not taking a trip to Dallas for a game, which I usually do. i can just let it go and i will probably be a much happier person. :)


So you were willing to suffer through 20 years of crap, perennial rankings in the bottom 10, and only an aspiration to be mediocre, and now you're jumping ship? You'd be willing to stop supporting our program because June Jones has [deleted] you off/hasn't recruited the way you see fit/doesn't coach the way you like? By that logic you'd prefer the past 20 years of being god awful over our worst season in half a decade being 5-7. Pretty logical.


Maybe he was expecting more than 6-6 last year and 5-6 this year during regular season with the reduced restraints on JJ that no other coach in over 20 has had.
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Re: No Coaching Change at SMU per USA Today / Dan Wolken

Postby couch 'em » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:12 pm

leopold wrote:
sbsmith wrote:
ponyboy wrote:It's not JJ's system that's being exposed. It's the enormous talent gap between the P5 and the rest. See what's happened to TCU as evidence.



Wasn't his system billed as an equalizer?



And it is one. But all the X's and O's in the world isn't going to count if you can't block and tackle. (See UGA whipping Hawaii).


"His", I.e. Mouse Davis' system wad en equalizer when defenses were set up to stop the wishbowe and power running games. Today everyone is set up to stop tons of fast receivers. Today the equalizer is the option game like Navy.
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Re: No Coaching Change at SMU per USA Today / Dan Wolken

Postby CalallenStang » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:40 pm

How is this story any different than June saying that he has got a contract extension and will probably sign it? No June quotes this time. That is the only difference.
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