The LIST - 24 and counting

expony18 · Post by **expony18** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:17 pm

jtstang wrote:Stars or not, and other offers notwithstanding, I dare say that Jones, et al., have come in and done a fine job of putting a class together at the last minute. All of my moaning about recruiting escaping us may have been premature. Just think what this guy could do with a full recruiting calendar at his disposal. I sant to see these guys make good on Saturday, but soon.

Rule 1 (JT's guide to being an SMU fan): NO EXPECTATIONS!!!

redpony · Post by **redpony** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:01 pm

Rule 2- ignore rule 1. This class looks great- not because of the # of stars but the obvious desire of these guys to excel. My expectations are high not because of the recruits but what JJ can get out of them in performance.

GO PONIES!!!!

MustangLaxer · Post by **MustangLaxer** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:28 pm

In JJ we trust. How many 3 star recruits did the past staff get in their five years??

expony18 · Post by **expony18** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:38 pm

MustangLaxer wrote:In JJ we trust. How many 3 star recruits did the past staff get in their five years??

http://www.ponyfans.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=30967

perunapower · Post by **perunapower** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:39 pm

MustangLaxer wrote:In JJ we trust. How many 3 star recruits did the past staff get in their five years??

24 according to Rivals.

1 in 2002.
-Anthony Barnett

10 in 2003.
-Justin Boren
-Avery Cleveland
-Zach Hall
-Desmond Jones
-Richuel Massey
-Ervin McGee
-Ricky Joe Meeks
-Cory Muse
-Chris Phillips
-Joe Sturdivant

1 in 2004.
-Vincent Chase

6 in 2005.
-Clayton Cox
-Columbus Givens
-Adrian Haywood
-Victor McKinde
-Curtis Powell
-Justin Willis

2 in 2006.
-Phillip Burley
-Bryan McCann

4 in 2007.
-De'von Bailey
-Derrius Bell
-Bradley Haynes
-Josh LeRibeus

expony18 · Post by **expony18** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:58 pm

perunapower wrote:
MustangLaxer wrote:In JJ we trust. How many 3 star recruits did the past staff get in their five years??

24 according to Rivals.

1 in 2002.
-Anthony Barnett

10 in 2003.
-Justin Boren
-Avery Cleveland
-Zach Hall
-Desmond Jones
-Richuel Massey
-Ervin McGee
-Ricky Joe Meeks
-Cory Muse, wish he didnt get hurt
-Chris Phillips
-Joe Sturdivant

1 in 2004.
-Vincent Chase, yet to see the full potential

6 in 2005.
-Clayton Cox
-Columbus Givens
-Adrian Haywood
-Victor McKinde
-Curtis Powell
-Justin Willis

2 in 2006.
-Phillip Burley yet to see full potential
-Bryan McCann yet to see full potential

4 in 2007.
-De'von Bailey
-Derrius Bell
-Bradley Haynes
-Josh LeRibeus
-yet to see.....

expony18 · Post by **expony18** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:00 am

on top of that.... man anthony barnett was a bust, nice guy but major bust

smupony · Post by **smupony** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:03 am

perunapower wrote:
MustangLaxer wrote:In JJ we trust. How many 3 star recruits did the past staff get in their five years??

24 according to Rivals.

1 in 2002.
-Anthony Barnett

10 in 2003.
-Justin Boren
-Avery Cleveland
-Zach Hall
-Desmond Jones
-Richuel Massey
-Ervin McGee
-Ricky Joe Meeks
-Cory Muse
-Chris Phillips
-Joe Sturdivant

1 in 2004.
-Vincent Chase

6 in 2005.
-Clayton Cox
-Columbus Givens
-Adrian Haywood
-Victor McKinde
-Curtis Powell
-Justin Willis

2 in 2006.
-Phillip Burley
-Bryan McCann

4 in 2007.
-De'von Bailey
-Derrius Bell
-Bradley Haynes
-Josh LeRibeus

What's amazing is how many of these guys never saw the field or even made it to graduation. I know kids come and go, but it seems like we tend to loose a lot of kids for one stupid reason or another. A couple never even made it to campus.

MustangIcon · Post by **MustangIcon** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:05 am

Expony, I would have highlighted Givens before Chase. He showed more in his time at SMU than Chase ever has in my opinion. I would agree with the rest of your highlights.

Also, of the '06 and '07 recruits, McCann has shown he will be a player in my opinion. I am excited to have him. The rest of the others I have only heard good things about. Bell and Bailey got some PT but I did not see anywhere near enough to pass any judgement at all thus far. They are all yet to be determined, like you said.

expony18 · Post by **expony18** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:15 am

MustangIcon wrote:Expony, I would have highlighted Givens before Chase. He showed more in his time at SMU than Chase ever has in my opinion. I would agree with the rest of your highlights.

Also, of the '06 and '07 recruits, McCann has shown he will be a player in my opinion. I am excited to have him. The rest of the others I have only heard good things about. Bell and Bailey got some PT but I did not see anywhere near enough to pass any judgement at all thus far. They are all yet to be determined, like you said.

chase has a lot of potential, and that is the only reason I highlighted him... this COULD be a break out year for him, but with the change in offenses it's doubtful... givens has been decent but not consistent enough IMO. McCann i noted "yet to see full potential" along with chase... decent but not what i have expected from them.... as for bell and bailey, it is way too early to judge, that's why i said yet to see.

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:05 am

Former Offensive or Defensive Players of the Year;

Sturdivant
Haywood
Willis
Muse-best player if not hurt
McCann-most promising young player

The problem is that we need more top recruits. This year Walkons were Players of the Year and we finished 1-11

MustangLaxer · Post by **MustangLaxer** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:39 am

Thanks perunapower...in a year where you go 1-11, from a coaching standpoint, why not let you walk ons have the player of the year awards. No doubt they deserve it and it could light a fire under some of the other guys.

--sledge was under scholarship, but i assume you meant former walk on

SMU Football Blog · Post by **SMU Football Blog** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:00 am

expony18 wrote:
MustangIcon wrote:Expony, I would have highlighted Givens before Chase. He showed more in his time at SMU than Chase ever has in my opinion. I would agree with the rest of your highlights.

Also, of the '06 and '07 recruits, McCann has shown he will be a player in my opinion. I am excited to have him. The rest of the others I have only heard good things about. Bell and Bailey got some PT but I did not see anywhere near enough to pass any judgement at all thus far. They are all yet to be determined, like you said.
chase has a lot of potential, and that is the only reason I highlighted him... this COULD be a break out year for him, but with the change in offenses it's doubtful... givens has been decent but not consistent enough IMO. McCann i noted "yet to see full potential" along with chase... decent but not what i have expected from them.... as for bell and bailey, it is way too early to judge, that's why i said yet to see.

Uh, whether it was intentional or not, it was probably a good thing not to highlight Givens. Has this been discussed or not on the Football board? I haven't paid that close attention. Givens is gone and ain't coming back.

mrydel · Post by **mrydel** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:12 am

SMU Football Blog wrote:
expony18 wrote:
MustangIcon wrote:Expony, I would have highlighted Givens before Chase. He showed more in his time at SMU than Chase ever has in my opinion. I would agree with the rest of your highlights.

Also, of the '06 and '07 recruits, McCann has shown he will be a player in my opinion. I am excited to have him. The rest of the others I have only heard good things about. Bell and Bailey got some PT but I did not see anywhere near enough to pass any judgement at all thus far. They are all yet to be determined, like you said.
chase has a lot of potential, and that is the only reason I highlighted him... this COULD be a break out year for him, but with the change in offenses it's doubtful... givens has been decent but not consistent enough IMO. McCann i noted "yet to see full potential" along with chase... decent but not what i have expected from them.... as for bell and bailey, it is way too early to judge, that's why i said yet to see.

Uh, whether it was intentional or not, it was probably a good thing not to highlight Givens. Has this been discussed or not on the Football board? I haven't paid that close attention. Givens is gone and ain't coming back.

Yes. Someone pointed out that he had transferred to UTEP.

MustangIcon · Post by **MustangIcon** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:47 am

SMU Football Blog wrote:
expony18 wrote:
MustangIcon wrote:Expony, I would have highlighted Givens before Chase. He showed more in his time at SMU than Chase ever has in my opinion. I would agree with the rest of your highlights.

Also, of the '06 and '07 recruits, McCann has shown he will be a player in my opinion. I am excited to have him. The rest of the others I have only heard good things about. Bell and Bailey got some PT but I did not see anywhere near enough to pass any judgement at all thus far. They are all yet to be determined, like you said.
chase has a lot of potential, and that is the only reason I highlighted him... this COULD be a break out year for him, but with the change in offenses it's doubtful... givens has been decent but not consistent enough IMO. McCann i noted "yet to see full potential" along with chase... decent but not what i have expected from them.... as for bell and bailey, it is way too early to judge, that's why i said yet to see.

Uh, whether it was intentional or not, it was probably a good thing not to highlight Givens. Has this been discussed or not on the Football board? I haven't paid that close attention. Givens is gone and ain't coming back.

I know Givens is gone but I wasn't using the highlights to show who might be good next year, but to try to point out which of the 3 star recruits under Bennett could be thought of as impact guys and I had Givens ahead of Chase. If you were grading hard, neither would be on the list based on what they have done at SMU thus far.