College bowl games...follow the money

PK · Post by PK » Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:20 pm

Interesting read:
http://www.dallasobserver.com/2011-12-1 ... versities/

NomAnor · Post by **NomAnor** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:34 pm

The only bit of info i retained from that read is that Minnesota SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PK · Post by PK » Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:39 pm

NomAnor wrote:The only bit of info i retained from that read is that Minnesota SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mitch McConnell will not be pleased with you.

NomAnor · Post by **NomAnor** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:48 pm

PK wrote:
NomAnor wrote:The only bit of info i retained from that read is that Minnesota SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mitch McConnell will not be pleased with you.

hehehehehehe

lwjr · Post by **lwjr** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:18 pm

Wasn't the Insight Bowl where Minnasota imploded in the second half and lost to Tech a few years ago? It also cost Glen Mason his job, I think.

maize'n'blue · Post by **maize'n'blue** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:25 pm

Uh Huhhh. Maybe Minnesota needs to play a little better football and go to the ROSE BOWL, which they ALSO got paid for despite the fact that they serve as "Target Practice" for the Wolverines and Buckeyes. These small games are university fleecing endeavors hey? YES but if these schools getting "fleeced" weren't obliged to play bowl games where they were gonna get screwed, their home attendance would suffer because every single good player would go to a school willing to play in a "meaningless bowl game" Then Home attendance at Minnesota would be half of what they get a Plano East. Even with the 85 scholarship rule. [deleted] about them all you want the kids WANT to play in Bowl games. Me, I want playoffs. But I'll live in my AQ world where Michigan gets to go to the Sugar Bowl without winning even our division and failing in what is our goal EVERY season at Michigan, winning the Big Ten and going to the Rose Bowl.

IMO for the team I support, the Sugar Bowl is a meaningless bowl game because it isn't in Pasadena.

NomAnor · Post by **NomAnor** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:29 pm

maize'n'blue wrote:Uh Huhhh. Maybe Minnesota needs to play a little better football and go to the ROSE BOWL, which they ALSO got paid for despite the fact that they serve as "Target Practice" for the Wolverines and Buckeyes. These small games are university fleecing endeavors hey? YES but if these schools getting "fleeced" weren't obliged to play bowl games where they were gonna get screwed, their home attendance would suffer because every single good player would go to a school willing to play in a "meaningless bowl game" Then Home attendance at Minnesota would be half of what they get a Plano East. Even with the 85 scholarship rule. [deleted] about them all you want the kids WANT to play in Bowl games. Me, I want playoffs. But I'll live in my AQ world where Michigan gets to go to the Sugar Bowl without winning even our division and failing in what is our goal EVERY season at Michigan, winning the Big Ten and going to the Rose Bowl.

IMO for the team I support, the Sugar Bowl is a meaningless bowl game because it isn't in Pasadena.

How did Y`All get in the sugar bowl over the spartans

maize'n'blue · Post by **maize'n'blue** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:39 pm

NomAnor wrote:
maize'n'blue wrote:Uh Huhhh. Maybe Minnesota needs to play a little better football and go to the ROSE BOWL, which they ALSO got paid for despite the fact that they serve as "Target Practice" for the Wolverines and Buckeyes. These small games are university fleecing endeavors hey? YES but if these schools getting "fleeced" weren't obliged to play bowl games where they were gonna get screwed, their home attendance would suffer because every single good player would go to a school willing to play in a "meaningless bowl game" Then Home attendance at Minnesota would be half of what they get a Plano East. Even with the 85 scholarship rule. [deleted] about them all you want the kids WANT to play in Bowl games. Me, I want playoffs. But I'll live in my AQ world where Michigan gets to go to the Sugar Bowl without winning even our division and failing in what is our goal EVERY season at Michigan, winning the Big Ten and going to the Rose Bowl.

IMO for the team I support, the Sugar Bowl is a meaningless bowl game because it isn't in Pasadena.

How did Y`All get in the sugar bowl over the spartans

Via the [deleted] factor... they had one more loss because they played one more game That and the fact that you can see block M Michigan Stickers on cars from coast to coast. Don't think I don't know it's screwed up. BUT the Spartans SHOULD have beaten Notre Dame (Michigan did) and they would have gotten their BCS game. There need be no excuses for them because I would have rather played for the Rose Bowl than backed into the Sugar and our players have said the same. They beat us and we destroyed the Nebraska team that handed them their only conference loss.

F#$* Sparty. Kansas State had a MUCH better BCS case than did they (or Virginia Tech) The game should probably be Boise vs K State but who in the hell would watch that???? ME and other dudes that just watch way too much football and nobody else.

NomAnor · Post by **NomAnor** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:01 pm

hmm didnt know that I like both teams and fact they are the only two yankee teams I have rooted for since I was a kid

smupony94 · Post by **smupony94** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:06 pm

All figures in Millions of dollars (except totals) brought into the conference by their bowl appearance.

SEC:

LSU - $22.3
Ala - $ 6.1
SC - $ 4.55
Ark - $ 3.625
Ga $ 3.5
Fla $ 2.275
Aub $ 2.9325
Miss St. $1.8375
Vandy $ 1.4375

Total:$48,557,500
Estimated payout per team: $3,735,192.30

Big 10:

Wisconsin - $22.3
Michigan - $6.1
Nebraska - $4.55
Mich St. - $3.5
Iowa $3.325
Oh St $2.275
NWtern $1.7
Penn St. $1.1
Illinois $0.8375

Total: $45,687,500
Estimated payout per team: $3,514,423.08

ACC:

Clemson $22.3
Vir Tech $6.1
Virginia $3.9675
Fla St. $2.275
Ga Tech $2
Wake Ft $1.8375
N Car St.$1.7
N Car $1.650

Total: $41,830,000
Estimated payout per team: $3,217,692.31

Big 12:

Ok State -$22.3
Kan State $3.625
Oklahoma $3.325
Baylor $3.175
Tex $2.075
Iowa St. $1.8
Tex A&M $1.7
Mizzou $1.650

Total: $39,650,000
Estimated payout per team: $3,604,545.45

PAC-12:

Ore $22.3
Stan $6.1
Wash $3.175
Cal $2.075
Utah $2
Az St$1.1
UCLA $0.8375

Total: $37,587,500
Estimated payout per team: $2,891,346.15

Big East:

W Vir $22.3
Rutgers $1.8
Lville $1.7
Cinci $1.4375
Pitt $0.9625
Pur $0.750

Total: $28,950,000
Estimated payout per team: $3,216,666.67

CUSA:

Hou $1.1
SMU $0.9625
SMiss $0.650
Tulsa $0.600
Marsh $0.5375

Total: $3,850,000
Estimated payout per team: $296,153.85

MWC:

BSU $1.1
AF $1
SDSU $0.5
TCU $0.5
WY $0.45625

Total: $3,556,250
Estimated payout per team: $441,531.25

Notre Dame $3,325,000

MAC:

N Ill $0.750
W Mich $0.750
Temple $0.45625
Ohio $0.325

Total: $2,281,250
Estimated payout per team:$162,946.42

SUN:

Arkansas St. $0.750

FIU $0.5375
ULL $0.5

Total: $1,787,500
Estimated payout per team: $178,750

WAC:

Nev $0.65
Lou Tech $0.5
Ut St. $0.325

Total: $1,475,000
Estimated payout per team: $163,888.89

BYU - $600,000

that's great raplh · Post by **that's great raplh** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 11:30 pm

Roses are free

lwjr · Post by **lwjr** » Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:13 am

that's great raplh wrote:Roses are free

So are the compasses

leopold · Post by **leopold** » Sun Jan 01, 2012 12:08 pm

It's not just the small bowls that fleece the schools - MnB correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Michigan lost money on the Orange Bowl they went to years ago where the beat Alabama on a missed XP. If I'm not correct it actually cost the AD his job because the school consistently lost money on the bowl games the Wolverines went to, regardless of the bowl or it's location. I also believe that it was the SECOND AD to lose his job at UM over this (or at least I read that somewere).

I'm for the bowls but I absolutley agree that they need to sort the mess out. Why does TCU and LT have to go all the way to San Diego to play when the schools are practically next door? It's stupid, wastefull, and unorganized. It's also a waste for the bowl that should be there to try to not only provide a stage for the two schools, but also a chance for the city to earn revenue.

'94, I am wondering, I saw your figures for the school revenue for the bowls, and I have to ask - do you know how it is that LSU brings 22M from their game while 'Bama brings 6M and they are playing in the same game? That seems weird to me. Hell, travel expenses from Tuscaloosa are going to be similiar to coming from Baton Rouge.

ponyscott · Post by **ponyscott** » Sun Jan 01, 2012 12:22 pm

Thanks 94, that's interesting stats.

Charleston Pony · Post by **Charleston Pony** » Sun Jan 01, 2012 1:22 pm

read the other day that Clemson expects to lose $294k on their Orange Bowl appearance. I blame it on conference revenue sharing. Teams that earn those BCS bids should get to keep 50% before conference revenue sharing