PonyFans.comBoard IndexAround the HilltopFootballRecruitingBasketballOther Sports

What does June mean by the level where we are?

This is the forum for talk about SMU Football

Moderators: PonyPride, SmooPower

Re: What does June mean by the level where we are?

Postby Stallion » Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:27 pm

so basically its trash
"With a quarter of a tank of gas, we can get everything we need right here in DFW." -SMU Head Coach Chad Morris

When momentum starts rolling downhill in recruiting-WATCH OUT.
Stallion
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 44302
Joined: Tue Dec 19, 2000 4:01 am
Location: Dallas,Texas,USA

Re: What does June mean by the level where we are?

Postby sbsmith » Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:42 pm

Stallion wrote:so basically its trash



Pretty much, no context is given to help the reader understand what those numbers are supposed to mean so it can easily mislead someone into thinking that stars don't matter.
They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security

-Benjamin Franklin
sbsmith
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 9540
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:21 am
Location: Dallas

Re: What does June mean by the level where we are?

Postby Big12Mustang » Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:00 pm

sbsmith wrote:
Stallion wrote:so basically its trash



Pretty much, no context is given to help the reader understand what those numbers are supposed to mean so it can easily mislead someone into thinking that stars don't matter.


http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/colleg ... u-more.ece

Numbers don't lie. Only UNT is worse than we are. How can we ever compete on the field if we don't even bother to compete on the trail.

Seriously, I am losing hope fast!
User avatar
Big12Mustang
Hall of Famer
 
Posts: 2224
Joined: Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:41 am
Location: Uptown Dallas, TX

Re: What does June mean by the level where we are?

Postby Sideline » Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:07 pm

socially awkward dude mailed it in the week after beating tcu in 2011 and came to Ford with a less than sellout crowd.

He knew then the job required a marketable coaching personality, not just upset wins.

I give him credit for snagging three and a half more years of paychecks out of it. In most industries, you get canned for that sort of attitude.
Sideline
Scout Team
 
Posts: 85
Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:06 pm
Location: Dallas

Re: What does June mean by the level where we are?

Postby ponyboy » Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:17 pm

Big12Mustang wrote:
sbsmith wrote:
Stallion wrote:so basically its trash



Pretty much, no context is given to help the reader understand what those numbers are supposed to mean so it can easily mislead someone into thinking that stars don't matter.


http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/colleg ... u-more.ece

Numbers don't lie. Only UNT is worse than we are. How can we ever compete on the field if we don't even bother to compete on the trail.

Seriously, I am losing hope fast!


Numbers actually do lie, or at least mislead. 1) Coaching matters, i.e. how you develop talent and how you scheme to emphasize your players' assets and skillsets; 2) some staffs are just better at identifying talent.

Having said that, fire June.
ponyboy
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 15134
Joined: Wed Mar 22, 2000 4:01 am
Location: University Park,TX US

Re: What does June mean by the level where we are?

Postby dr rc » Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:22 pm

Rebel10 wrote:He said that he did not need to do many home visits for the level where we are. Does that mean he is recruiting lower level easy to get athletes on purpose? If he is doing that then we will stay where "we are."



he is simply making excuses for being a lazy fat [deleted].

its pretty pathetic.
dr rc
Varsity
 
Posts: 362
Joined: Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:06 pm

Re: What does June mean by the level where we are?

Postby Big12Mustang » Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:45 pm

ponyboy wrote: Numbers actually do lie, or at least mislead. 1) Coaching matters, i.e. how you develop talent and how you scheme to emphasize your players' assets and skillsets; 2) some staffs are just better at identifying talent.

Having said that, fire June.


Agree with you there, but Texas A&M, Texas, OU, Tech, TCU, Oklahoma State cannot all be wrong. Their talent is markedly better than ours and they prove it with the amount of 3 and 4 stars they recruit and on the field against us.
User avatar
Big12Mustang
Hall of Famer
 
Posts: 2224
Joined: Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:41 am
Location: Uptown Dallas, TX

Re: What does June mean by the level where we are?

Postby Rebel10 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:49 pm

Big12Mustang wrote:
ponyboy wrote: Numbers actually do lie, or at least mislead. 1) Coaching matters, i.e. how you develop talent and how you scheme to emphasize your players' assets and skillsets; 2) some staffs are just better at identifying talent.

Having said that, fire June.


Agree with you there, but Texas A&M, Texas, OU, Tech, TCU, Oklahoma State cannot all be wrong. Their talent is markedly better than ours and they prove it with the amount of 3 and 4 stars they recruit and on the field against us.


If you look at the offers lists that the kids that go to those schools have it is pretty good. Pay more attention to the offer list than anything else because they can't really argue with that.
#HammerDown
Rebel10
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 12534
Joined: Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:20 pm

Re: What does June mean by the level where we are?

Postby ojaipony » Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:07 pm

Fire able offense in my book. The idiot said himself that college is better than pro because you have more control over the program and success and failure pretty much falls on head coach. So man up or get out! I'm done with this clown. I gave you 2 years of benefits if doubt after asu and you failed. Goodbye.
ojaipony
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 8281
Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:02 pm
Location: Austin, TX

Re: What does June mean by the level where we are?

Postby Bergermeister » Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:34 pm

ojaipony wrote:Fire able offense in my book. The idiot said himself that college is better than pro because you have more control over the program and success and failure pretty much falls on head coach. So man up or get out! I'm done with this clown. I gave you 2 years of benefits if doubt after asu and you failed. Goodbye.

Hopefully, this guy is laughing while he is creating this diatribe because I cannot imagine how anyone could get so angry over how someone else does their job. "The idiot..."? "clown"? C'mon, surely you're better than that.
User avatar
Bergermeister
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 7132
Joined: Sun Jul 28, 2002 3:01 am
Location: University Park

Re: What does June mean by the level where we are?

Postby Treadway21 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:57 pm

No. It's entirely legitimate. Do you think we should all just be quiet and accept how June conducts himself if we disagree. June has given everyone who thinks he isn't doing his job plenty of ammunition to complain.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
An atheist is a guy who watches a Notre Dame-SMU football game and
doesn't care who wins.
-- Dwight D. Eisenhower
User avatar
Treadway21
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 6586
Joined: Thu Nov 18, 2004 2:14 pm
Location: Dallas, TX

Re: What does June mean by the level where we are?

Postby ponyboy » Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:58 pm

Big12Mustang wrote:
ponyboy wrote: Numbers actually do lie, or at least mislead. 1) Coaching matters, i.e. how you develop talent and how you scheme to emphasize your players' assets and skillsets; 2) some staffs are just better at identifying talent.

Having said that, fire June.


Agree with you there, but Texas A&M, Texas, OU, Tech, TCU, Oklahoma State cannot all be wrong. Their talent is markedly better than ours and they prove it with the amount of 3 and 4 stars they recruit and on the field against us.


Right. Combine coaching and talent and you really have something special.
ponyboy
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 15134
Joined: Wed Mar 22, 2000 4:01 am
Location: University Park,TX US

Re: What does June mean by the level where we are?

Postby mustangxc » Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:44 pm

Rebel10 wrote:
ponyinNC wrote:Email hart your feelings. Plz

[email protected]


While emailing Hart may be a direct way to address the problem a more effective way might be to email Aresco. I would think Aresco would be incensed by thoses comments.
User avatar
mustangxc
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 7338
Joined: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:57 pm

Re: What does June mean by the level where we are?

Postby mustangxc » Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:48 pm

I wish June Jones saw Larry Brown's video and digested the quote "I didn't get too caught up in the tradition. I got caught up in the potential." Wins and losses define the program you are, but recruiting defines what you want to be.
User avatar
mustangxc
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 7338
Joined: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:57 pm

Re: What does June mean by the level where we are?

Postby sbsmith » Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:00 pm

mustangxc wrote: Wins and losses define the program you are, but recruiting defines what you want to be.



Good point, right now our wins and losses say we're a mediocre program and our recruiting says we want to continue being a mediocre program.
They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security

-Benjamin Franklin
sbsmith
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 9540
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:21 am
Location: Dallas

PreviousNext

Return to Football

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 21 guests